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HanKFranK
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Loc: Graniteville, SC
erika verification, waves
      Sat Aug 16 2003 08:50 AM

got close on erika. intensity slightly overdone, toss up on whether it was a hurricane at landfall. 987mb is usually paired with a marginal cat 1.. though i remember gabrielle hitting florida in sep 2001 at 980 and still being a t.s. my location was decent.. i had it a 'few' miles south of the border.. i was thinking on the order of 10. turned out to be closer to 30. C performance overall.
the waves.. already hear some people calling the first one a fish spinner. uh.. what? it hasn't even developed.. you can't make a call with any real weight until that happens. if it develops way out there then yes, it will probably go north of the islands. closer it develops, more likely it is heard from. nogaps is being hesitant to deepen it on more recent runs, and that i'd take with more weight than gfs. i'm still on the development wagon for now, though.
how many hurricanes went north of the islands and still hit the u.s. later? try andrew donna and floyd for starters.. some gfs runs are bringing the leader system to just off hatteras in 10 days or so, which is remarkable in itself as gfs likes to recurve everything east of bermuda. so i think making a fish spinner call is very premature, even if it's probably not island music, even if odds are for it. gfs is a good long range tool, but it doesn't handle well intensity or exact timing of troughs if the pattern is changing.. and it is evolving. if NAO goes strongly negative again late in the month then look out, because this one will be in the neighborhood.
as for this morning there isn't much in the way of change. still disturbed weather in the sw carib that is too close to land to do anything. if any wave energy can interact with the trough that dug in behind erika off the southeast we'd have an interesting situation, but that doesn't appear to be happening. swirls in the central atlantic look about the same.. both going north and out. east atlantic waves aren't any better organized.. the one at 29w is still quite impressive but sheared from the east.. the others are devoid of convection for the most part. basin should be devoid of active systems later today.
HF 1254z16august
the strange note of the day is that some models appear to be picking up on an eastpac reflection of erika in 3 days or so. keeping my eye for the unusual trained there.

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* Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf CFHCAdministrator Sat Aug 16 2003 08:50 AM
. * * Central atlantic wave Alex   Mon Aug 18 2003 09:42 PM
. * * central atlantic wave Alex   Mon Aug 18 2003 05:04 PM
. * * can't be too long now Alex   Sun Aug 17 2003 05:40 PM
. * * GFS puts TC near Puerto Rico Cycloneye   Sun Aug 17 2003 06:28 PM
. * * Re: GFS puts TC near Puerto Rico Lonny307   Sun Aug 17 2003 07:55 PM
. * * reflection of a time long ago Frank P   Sun Aug 17 2003 08:54 PM
. * * Re: reflection of a time long ago stormchazer   Mon Aug 18 2003 04:08 PM
. * * Wish List for tomorrow: I want an invest on the wave Bobbi   Mon Aug 18 2003 09:31 PM
. * * Re: Wish List for tomorrow: I want an invest on the wave Frank P   Mon Aug 18 2003 09:37 PM
. * * Re: reflection of a time long ago islander   Mon Aug 18 2003 05:05 PM
. * * Re: reflection of a time long ago Storm Cooper   Mon Aug 18 2003 04:57 PM
. * * Jara/ Coop Frank P   Mon Aug 18 2003 05:12 PM
. * * Re: Jara/ Coop Storm Cooper   Mon Aug 18 2003 06:46 PM
. * * Re: reflection of a time long ago JustMe   Mon Aug 18 2003 05:00 AM
. * * Re: reflection of a time long ago 57497479   Mon Aug 18 2003 07:39 AM
. * * Things of interest this morning... Steve   Mon Aug 18 2003 09:48 AM
. * * Re: Things of interest this morning... islander   Mon Aug 18 2003 10:07 AM
. * * Re: Things of interest this morning... Frank P   Mon Aug 18 2003 11:03 AM
. * * Re: Things of interest this morning... javlin   Mon Aug 18 2003 01:26 PM
. * * Re: Things of interest this morning... Brad in Miami   Mon Aug 18 2003 11:16 AM
. * * a beautiful wave...happy monday LoisCane   Mon Aug 18 2003 12:07 PM
. * * BOC cajun   Mon Aug 18 2003 12:16 PM
. * * Re: Things of interest this morning... islander   Mon Aug 18 2003 12:03 PM
. * * Re: Things of interest this afternoon Cycloneye   Mon Aug 18 2003 12:18 PM
. * * Re: Things of interest this afternoon Tropics Guy   Mon Aug 18 2003 12:57 PM
. * * Re: Things of interest this afternoon Brad in Miami   Mon Aug 18 2003 01:25 PM
. * * Re: Things of interest this afternoon Tropics Guy   Mon Aug 18 2003 01:44 PM
. * * Re: Things of interest this afternoon javlin   Mon Aug 18 2003 06:24 PM
. * * Re: Things of interest this afternoon javlin   Mon Aug 18 2003 06:47 PM
. * * Re: Things of interest this afternoon Steve   Mon Aug 18 2003 07:47 PM
. * * Re: Things of interest this afternoon javlin   Mon Aug 18 2003 09:26 PM
. * * thanks all Frank P   Mon Aug 18 2003 10:19 AM
. * * Re: thanks all Shan   Mon Aug 18 2003 09:22 PM
. * * Re: thanks all Storm Cooper   Mon Aug 18 2003 09:44 PM
. * * Re: thanks all 57497479   Mon Aug 18 2003 10:29 PM
. * * Re: thanks all Storm Cooper   Mon Aug 18 2003 10:59 PM
. * * Re: thanks all javlin   Mon Aug 18 2003 11:19 PM
. * * Re: thanks all 57497479   Mon Aug 18 2003 11:13 PM
. * * Re: thanks all BillD   Mon Aug 18 2003 08:01 PM
. * * Re: thanks all Frank P   Mon Aug 18 2003 09:05 PM
. * * FWIW Steve   Mon Aug 18 2003 09:22 PM
. * * Re: FWIW javlin   Mon Aug 18 2003 09:39 PM
. * * still there in the morning...looking good, how bout a new room? bobbi   Tue Aug 19 2003 05:41 AM
. * * Re: still there in the morning...looking good, how bout a new room? JustMe   Tue Aug 19 2003 07:59 AM
. * * Re: FWIW stormchazer   Mon Aug 18 2003 09:57 PM
. * * Re: FWIW javlin   Mon Aug 18 2003 10:13 PM
. * * Atlantic wave has gained convection but is it organizing? Cycloneye   Mon Aug 18 2003 07:14 AM
. * * Re: reflection of a time long ago 57497479   Sun Aug 17 2003 10:27 PM
. * * Re: reflection of a time long ago Mitch   Sun Aug 17 2003 09:37 PM
. * * Re: reflection of a time long ago Kevin   Sun Aug 17 2003 09:58 PM
. * * Re: reflection of a time long ago squirralee   Sun Aug 17 2003 09:31 PM
. * * latest vortex message Alex   Fri Aug 15 2003 06:42 PM
. * * wave train Alex   Fri Aug 15 2003 03:21 PM
. * * Re: wave train stormchazer   Fri Aug 15 2003 04:48 PM
. * * Afternoon Bastardi comment... Steve   Fri Aug 15 2003 05:04 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf squirralee   Fri Aug 15 2003 11:32 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf scottsvb   Fri Aug 15 2003 11:51 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf islander   Fri Aug 15 2003 12:19 PM
. * * Pressure down to 1002 mb Brad in Miami   Fri Aug 15 2003 01:37 PM
. * * 1001 mb and still flying around Brad in Miami   Fri Aug 15 2003 01:48 PM
. * * (1) eye forming? too early to tell with certainty (2) vortex message Brad in Miami   Fri Aug 15 2003 01:42 PM
. * * Re: (1) eye forming? too early to tell with certainty Brad in Miami   Fri Aug 15 2003 02:23 PM
. * * Re: (1) eye forming? too early to tell with certainty scottsvb   Fri Aug 15 2003 02:36 PM
. * * Re: (1) eye forming? too early to tell with certainty islander   Fri Aug 15 2003 05:10 PM
. * * Re: (1) eye forming? too early to tell with certainty Cycloneye   Fri Aug 15 2003 05:52 PM
. * * Re: (1) eye forming? too early to tell with certainty islander   Sat Aug 16 2003 12:12 AM
. * * Re: (1) eye forming? too early to tell with certainty islander   Sat Aug 16 2003 12:23 AM
. * * Re: (1) eye forming? too early to tell with certainty islander   Sat Aug 16 2003 12:37 AM
. * * recon v. satellite/dvorak intensity Brad in Miami   Sat Aug 16 2003 12:54 AM
. * * Re: recon v. satellite/dvorak intensity javlin   Sat Aug 16 2003 01:12 AM
. * * Re: recon v. satellite/dvorak intensity javlin   Sat Aug 16 2003 01:16 AM
. * * Last thoughts for now on Erika Steve   Fri Aug 15 2003 03:34 PM
. * * Track WXMAN RICHIE   Fri Aug 15 2003 10:01 PM
. * * Re: Track HanKFranK   Fri Aug 15 2003 11:50 PM
. * * Re: Track islander   Sat Aug 16 2003 12:07 AM
. * * Re: Track Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sat Aug 16 2003 12:02 AM
. * * Re: Track Steve   Fri Aug 15 2003 11:16 PM
. * * Re: Track Storm Cooper   Sat Aug 16 2003 06:43 AM
. * * San Juan NWS discussion about atlantic wave and more Cycloneye   Sat Aug 16 2003 07:51 AM
. * * Re: San Juan NWS discussion about atlantic wave and more 57497479   Sat Aug 16 2003 08:09 AM
. * * Re: San Juan NWS discussion about atlantic wave and more islander   Sat Aug 16 2003 11:35 AM
. * * Hey Islander Steve-unplugged   Sat Aug 16 2003 12:44 PM
. * * Re: Hey Islander Carl   Sat Aug 16 2003 01:50 PM
. * * Re: Hey Islander Storm Cooper   Sat Aug 16 2003 03:53 PM
. * * Re: Hey Islander 57497479   Sat Aug 16 2003 04:53 PM
. * * Re: Hey Islander Storm Cooper   Sat Aug 16 2003 01:59 PM
. * * Re: Hey Islander Carl   Sat Aug 16 2003 04:17 PM
. * * Re: Hey Islander javlin   Sat Aug 16 2003 04:30 PM
. * * Re: Hey Islander Storm Cooper   Sat Aug 16 2003 04:27 PM
. * * UKMET joins GFS and Nogaps on CV train development Cycloneye   Sat Aug 16 2003 04:39 PM
. * * Re: UKMET joins GFS and Nogaps on CV train development islander   Sat Aug 16 2003 06:51 PM
. * * Re: UKMET joins GFS and Nogaps on CV train development Cycloneye   Sat Aug 16 2003 07:04 PM
. * * Re: UKMET joins GFS and Nogaps on CV train development Storm Cooper   Sat Aug 16 2003 05:29 PM
. * * more to look at HanKFranK   Sat Aug 16 2003 06:21 PM
. * * Re: more to look at 57497479   Sat Aug 16 2003 06:58 PM
. * * Re: more to look at HanKFranK   Sat Aug 16 2003 06:52 PM
. * * Re: more to look at 57497479   Sat Aug 16 2003 08:06 PM
. * * Re: more to look at Storm Cooper   Sat Aug 16 2003 11:04 PM
. * * Re: more to look at 57497479   Sun Aug 17 2003 06:48 AM
. * * Re: more to look at Storm Cooper   Sun Aug 17 2003 07:25 AM
. * * Re: more to look at Cycloneye   Sun Aug 17 2003 07:52 AM
. * * Re: more to look at JustMe   Sun Aug 17 2003 09:30 AM
. * * less to look at HanKFranK   Sat Aug 16 2003 11:13 PM
. * * Re: less to look at Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sun Aug 17 2003 09:40 AM
. * * No known cure! 57497479   Sun Aug 17 2003 08:51 PM
. * * Re: No known cure! Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sun Aug 17 2003 09:07 PM
. * * Re: No known cure! 57497479   Sun Aug 17 2003 10:30 PM
. * * Re: less to look at Mary K.   Sun Aug 17 2003 11:57 AM
. * * Re: less to look at stormchazer   Sun Aug 17 2003 02:01 PM
. * * Re: less to look at HanKFranK   Sun Aug 17 2003 10:29 AM
. * * Re: less to look at Mary K.   Sun Aug 17 2003 10:38 AM
. * * 18z GFS Cycloneye   Sat Aug 16 2003 08:51 PM
. * * Re: 18z GFS 57497479   Sat Aug 16 2003 09:02 PM
. * * Re: 18z GFS squirralee   Sat Aug 16 2003 10:49 PM
. * * Re: 18z GFS 57497479   Sat Aug 16 2003 11:36 PM
. * * Re: 18z GFS squirralee   Sun Aug 17 2003 10:58 AM
. * * Cape Verde Thoughts... Kevin   Sat Aug 16 2003 09:23 PM
. * * Re: Cape Verde Thoughts... 57497479   Sat Aug 16 2003 09:46 PM
. * * Erika... i was a little off :) Rich B   Sat Aug 16 2003 12:56 PM
. * * Re: San Juan NWS discussion about atlantic wave and more 57497479   Sat Aug 16 2003 12:09 PM
. * * erika verification, waves HanKFranK   Sat Aug 16 2003 08:50 AM
. * * Re: erika verification, waves 57497479   Sat Aug 16 2003 09:35 AM
. * * Re: erika verification, waves Steve H.   Sat Aug 16 2003 10:00 AM
. * * They Must Be Getting Tired at the NHC... clyde w.   Fri Aug 15 2003 11:00 PM
. * * Re: Track edpro   Fri Aug 15 2003 10:41 PM
. * * T-Numbers Rich B   Fri Aug 15 2003 03:54 PM
. * * Re: (1) eye forming? too early to tell with certainty (2) vortex message Brad in Miami   Fri Aug 15 2003 01:44 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf javlin   Thu Aug 14 2003 08:24 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Storm Cooper   Thu Aug 14 2003 08:19 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Jamie-on-dabyu   Thu Aug 14 2003 08:28 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Storm Cooper   Thu Aug 14 2003 11:10 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Jamie-on-dabyu   Thu Aug 14 2003 11:47 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Shan   Fri Aug 15 2003 01:09 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Steve   Fri Aug 15 2003 07:58 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf javlin   Fri Aug 15 2003 09:49 AM
. * * what to do with erika.. HanKFranK   Fri Aug 15 2003 10:43 AM
. * * Re: what to do with erika.. HanKFranK   Fri Aug 15 2003 10:45 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf javlin   Fri Aug 15 2003 02:04 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Storm Cooper   Thu Aug 14 2003 10:43 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf javlin   Thu Aug 14 2003 10:48 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Storm Cooper   Thu Aug 14 2003 11:07 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf javlin   Thu Aug 14 2003 11:17 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf javlin   Fri Aug 15 2003 02:07 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf javlin   Thu Aug 14 2003 10:34 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Steve   Thu Aug 14 2003 11:18 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Storm Cooper   Fri Aug 15 2003 05:22 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf 57497479   Fri Aug 15 2003 06:12 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Storm Cooper   Fri Aug 15 2003 05:32 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf 57497479   Fri Aug 15 2003 06:11 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Storm Cooper   Fri Aug 15 2003 06:43 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf stormchazer   Fri Aug 15 2003 09:16 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Brad in Miami   Fri Aug 15 2003 07:18 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Jamie-on-dabyu   Fri Aug 15 2003 08:59 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf stormchazer   Fri Aug 15 2003 09:20 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf stormchazer   Fri Aug 15 2003 09:50 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Storm Cooper   Fri Aug 15 2003 08:46 PM
. * * An Eye Forming? recmod   Fri Aug 15 2003 08:59 PM
. * * Re: An Eye Forming? Lisa NC   Fri Aug 15 2003 09:14 PM
. * * Re: An Eye Forming? Storm Cooper   Fri Aug 15 2003 09:08 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Rich B   Fri Aug 15 2003 06:49 AM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf javlin   Thu Aug 14 2003 10:41 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf stormchazer   Thu Aug 14 2003 09:05 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf HanKFranK   Thu Aug 14 2003 08:49 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Alan   Thu Aug 14 2003 09:06 PM
. * * Bouy reading Robert   Thu Aug 14 2003 10:03 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf javlin   Thu Aug 14 2003 08:43 PM
. * * Re: Tropical Storm Erika forms in the Gulf Alex   Thu Aug 14 2003 08:17 PM

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