I really am having a hard time locating the circulation center of Lili. Dvorak loops and IR loops show strong convection but i have trouble seeing the low level turning. Seems to me she is getting lifted NW. This could, of course be that she is a small closed ow now. Anyone know the exact location. Izzy getting off Yucatan soon, should follow the prescribed track. GFDL has a scary scenario for cuba and Florida as well as Haiti. One rule of thumb i stick to usually. WHere the storm is shown in the models to go, is where it won't. So I feel safe here in East Central Florida....until further notice. Fare thee well on the Northern Gulf Coast!!! God be with you!! Cheers!! Steve H.