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my thoughts for whatever they are worth.. writing from miami, its thundering outside suddenly ive been watching this loop.. gives me good view of both systems, sort of a compare and contrast view.. http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/sat_ir_enh_east_loop-12.html old slow loop but gives you a feel for whole basin which i prefer sometimes to the old invest tho i am watching that too looks like the environment around the yucatan is begging for development, still not sold on this philly and atlantic wave has a nice broad curved look but neither is a "for sure" bet yet reading along, and watching bobbi |