Model runs over the next 5 days are going to be sooo important. I will post my 3 and 5 day forcasts later today on here and hopefully we will have a new thread up. As of my post 3 days back my 3 day forcast is right on. 5 day of it being near 20-21N and 70 looks close. Pattern is evoloving now with upper trough to the west and moving w. Somehow as a forsight into the future I suspect after a turn towards wnw near 70 a turn more westerly again near 75. But when the turn again NW? before on or after florida? I think i went too far already, will post later today. scottsvb