I believe the other night when they found the 160-165mph there were reports of hail and lightning.

FWIW, the mets here are saying what's keeping the westward track IS the FSU ensemble track, which he said started last night. One said if the trend is still to the west tonight, we'll probably see them shift the track more westward at 11.

Which really isn't all that surprising, given the fact that they have been stressing THE CONE for days now.

Anyone in the Orland/Tampa Area that can get Channel 9 (Channel 20 in Polk County/Lakeland Area) this might interest you: Tom Terry is going to go over ALL the models so we can (hopefully) get a better idea as to why they're thinking what they're thinking.

Jason, does the FSU ensemble normally do a better job than all the other models? Is that why they rely on it so heavily?