Just an observation, for what it's worth. The water vapor loop that I look at doesn't show anything south of Cuba. I've been using it to watch the trof building in over the northwest Gulf. Last night when I looked at it, just a small part of Ivan was visible at the bottom of the screen. I haven't looked at it for nearly 24 hours (was gone all day today) and I don't see anymore of Ivan tonight than I did last night. On the radio I kept hearing WNW movement, but he doesn't seem to have made much in the way of northerly progress today. Maybe it's just because he's still only moving 9mph.