Read what you wrote Clark. Don't see how this storm goes easily out to sea. Even the first discussion said that it could west of the forecast...or some similar wording. With the outflow to the north and north west of Ivan pushing down on it... keeping it intact but a not so intense storm. The flow to the north is east to west and can see where eventually the high will build in again.

I've heard locally from people on TV.. maybe Bermuda, NC..

Meanwhile it went more west than expected to start with and seems Jeanne will do what many haven't done yet.. hit PR and the islands.

Something to watch..

as we watch Ivan make his move and see how they both dance.