Have heard this said before time and time again but think this time its for real that we are watching a historical hurricane we will remember for years to come about to make landfall on the central Gulf.

Easy to look at charts, sats and loops and think Ivan will move nne or even ne just before landfall. The case for such a track is there however sometimes you have to throw the climo and the forecasted tracks out the window a bit and look at the particular cane involved. Something About Ivan wants to go west.. always. If there is any way this storm can find a westward component in its movement it will find a way. Hard to ignore millions of dollars of money invested in models and lord only knows what the FSU superensemble has to say (seems only Avilla likes to talk) but in the end..very soon we will see where he goes.

And... where he goes directly affects Jeanne. She looks better than any tropical storm that close to Ivan should. The views of the two of them sitting on the screen like Big Daddy and Little Miss are entrancing to those of us that love to watch tropical weather.

Great discussion here tonight. Not much to add. Just adding my two cents... hope everyone is right and this isn't a worst case scenario for NOLA. People I trust have been saying Mobile for over a week.

Is there a good scenario here?

Thanks for keeping this site going.. Bobbi