Excellent discussion on the tropics there HF. In regard to the remnants of Ivan, I think that they will be named the same name because they have been saying the remnants of Ivan somewhere in the NHC diccussions, don't want to open another arguement though... The regeneration of Ivan is like a 50:50 chance, it's weird that the storms that have the most overall cyclonic energy ala Camille regenerated. Maybe the atmosphere can only hold a given amount of energy from a storm, so inturn the storms energy transforms from kientic to potential which I'm really not going to go in detail about that. Have a goodnight everyone!