Okay..gotcha. At this time, I think they're splitting hairs and I don't think they have that much time to work this thing. So, as the 2am advisory says, the watches will go up at 5am, then I guess they will have to start evacuating pretty darned quickly.

I'm with you on the NNW/N turn after it comes inland. I just don't see that H giving it much room to move north, and she's starting to move along (even just 1mph faster) quicker so I think that Jeanne's going to win the battle.

Didn't we go through this same exact scenario with Frances??? Turn to the north, skirt the coast, than BAM! Door slammed shut and she came inland and exited just above Tampa Bay.

Maybe it's deja vu.