The disturbance between the Azores and the Canaries is showing up as very weakly symmetric but shallow warm core in the GFS and with ambiguous symmetry and on the border between deep cold core and shallow warm core on the UKMET and NOGAPS. (Finally got everything fixed...think the NHC people probably fired off an e-mail to get it done because they needed it!) Trends have been more subtropical than cold-core, but with little further warm core development from here. Will be an interesting case -- they are generally lax to name/classify those systems, but this is a pretty clear-cut case (IMO) for it. We'll see at 11 or 5.