Hugh... i been away from the forum for a bit... new tor for Franklin... watching it on level II... its wrapped in the feeder band.... but at first look i thought that spinn to the southeast of aplach. was upper level... hence the water vapor loop... but after looking at some other data... i think that this "may" be a new low trying to work it way down to the surface... atleast i think its more mid-level than i first thought... i think the ULL had beaten the surface low again thats sw of tampa... and i think we "may" have a new surface low trying to form under that rotation you see on tallahasse radar... **note too that like above post... i just checked on my grlevel program... the beam is shooting at around 12000ft where that circulation is showing up...** so that makes me think its more mid-level now than upper level... i post more in a bit... watching the franklin county system

****IF this is true... you basically start all over with the models...*** Still looking at a lot of data.

**also i am looking at around 28.58n and 84.45w**