MikeCAdministrator
(Admin)
Sun Aug 03 2008 08:38 PM
Tropical Storm Edouard Makes Landfall on Upper Texas Coast

Update - Tuesday - 08/05, 7:00AM CT
Edouard makes landfall between high island and sabine pass as a tropical storm.

Update - Tuesday - 08/05, 6:51AM CT
Edouard looks like it will not make hurricane status before landfall, and adjustments overnight put the landfall point north of the Houston/Galveston area between there and Port Arthur.

The biggest story from Edouard will be the rainfall. Outside of Edouard, not much to look at except a wave off Africa.

Galveston Beach Cam Recording

Update - Monday - 08/04, 6:04PM CT
Edouard weakened a bit this morning to 45MPH, but from recon and radar it appears to have begun slowly reorganizing.

Right now it is still expected to make landfall at or near Galveston, TX tomorrow afternoon as a strong Tropical Storm and a small chance of a minimal hurricane. Follow local media, and official statements if you are in the area. Generally prepare for a category 1 hurricane, but expect a Tropical Storm.

Things that could change are if the storm slows down forward motion, giving it more time to organize, or if it manages to get on an organization spree or not. The former is possible, the latter is less likely.



Update - Monday - 08/04, 6:40AM CT
Edouard continues to move generally westward around 8MPH this morning. Tropical Storm Warnings still remain, and a Hurricane Watch is up from Port O'Connor Texas to west of Intracoastal City, Louisiana. There is a chance that Edouard could become a category 1 before landfall, and thus those in the warning area should prepare, especially boaters and those along the coast. Listen to local media and authorities for more information.

The most likely scenario (as of now, this could change) is that it makes landfall at or just north of Galveston as a strong Tropical Storm, not making it to hurricane strength. The rain potential is probably the largest worry about this one.



Update - Sunday - 08/03, 6PM ET
Based on latest RECON data, NHC has upgraded TD#5 to Tropical Storm Edouard at 03/22Z. Sustained winds now at 45mph and central pressure down to 1002MB. Tropical Storm Watches and Warnings remain unchanged, however, winds prior to landfall on Tuesday afternoon have been increased to 65mph gusting to 80mph. If the increase in windspeed materializes, this would make Edouard a potent Tropical Storm. Folks in the north Texas and Louisiana coastal areas need to stay current on the movement and intensity of this storm and begin initial storm preparations at this time.
ED

Original Post - Sunday 08/03, 5PM ET
Invest 91L in the gulf has become a Tropical Depression this afternoon, and because of its proximity to the north central Gulf coast, Tropical Storm warnings are now up in Louisiana from the mouth of the Mississippi river westward to Intracoastal City, and Tropical Storm watches are up west of there to Port O'Connor Texas.



Mid to upper level winds indicate a movement toward the north Texas coastal area. Moderate easterly windshear is likely to inhibit any significant development but folks in the north Texas to western Louisiana coastal areas should monitor this TD closely since there is a possibility that the windshear will relax. The initial NHC forecast brings TD#5 to Tropical Storm strength within 24 hours. The next name on the list is Edouard.

The latest GFDL model run brings TD#5 to hurricane strength, but right now that remains unlikely. However, it does mean that people in the watch/warning areas will want to keep a close watch on this system.

What do you think TD#5 will do, where will it go? How strong? Let us know in the TD#5 Lounge .

Event Related Links:

Level 3 Radar Recording of Edouard from HCW

{{radarlink|lix|New Orleans, LA Radar}}
{{radarlink|lch|Lake Charles, LA Radar}}
{{radarlink|hgx|Houston/Galveston, TX Radar}}
{{radarlink|crp|Corpus Christi, TX Radar}}
Regional Composite Radar (Edouard)

{{HoustonStormEventLinks}}

{{StormLinks|Edouard|05|5|2008|2|Edouard}}


cieldumort
(Moderator)
Sun Aug 03 2008 09:46 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 5 Forms in Gulf of Mexico Tropical Storm Warnings up in Louisiana

We just got a new vort fix. Extrapolated, pressure is now down around 1002 mb, with max. flight-level winds at 53 knots. Considering the less-than ideal environment Five is currently in, this does not bode well should it find itself in something closer to an ideal environment at any time between now and the nearly certain northwestern GOM landfall this week.

Given the fairly rapid deepening this afternoon, and somewhat improved convective organization, higher percentages of these much stronger flight level winds may begin transporting down to the surface at any time.


Random Chaos
(Weather Analyst)
Sun Aug 03 2008 10:13 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 5 Forms in Gulf of Mexico Tropical Storm Warnings up in Louisiana

Officially Tropical Storm Edouard, per NHC 6pm special update.
(As noted on the Update to this thread in the leadoff article.)


danielwAdministrator
(Moderator)
Sun Aug 03 2008 10:53 PM
Tropical Storm Edouard

I too am a bit concerned at the 5mb drop in 90 minutes time.

The wind speed increase this afternoon is also a bit nerve wracking with regard to Edouard's proximity to land. We've learned that rapid spin up is a possibility with any developing system in the GOM over the last two years.

Humberto 2007 and Dolly 2008 both surprised thousands, if not millions of people with the rapid spin up scenario.

221800 2813N 08755W 9843 00198 0072 +206 +200 138050 052 999 999 03

210700 2805N 08749W 9665 00353 0069 +186 +186 158052 054 999 999 03

These are raw HDOB observation with the peak flight level winds speeds. Both of the observations are in the same area.
Near 28.05 to 28.13N/ 87.49 to 87.55W

I haven't looked at much of the surface data but this would seem to indicate the NE Quadrant of the Storm. Referencing the NHC coordinates. It does appear that this is the NE Quadrant that the highest wind speeds are being detected.

71 minutes apart, so the next set should be transmitted around 2329Z or 729PM EDT.


Beaumont, TX
(Storm Tracker)
Sun Aug 03 2008 10:54 PM
Re: Tropical Depression 5 Forms in Gulf of Mexico Tropical Storm Warnings up in Louisiana

Our local met said Ed is supposed to pick up speed (hope that is the case). Should be tropical storm at landfall but a hurricane is a possibility. Right now
looks like landfall around Galveson. All happening pretty quick. Glad they got the warnings and watches up.
It will take some people a day or two to pay attention.
Our met did say we have the possibility of a lot of rain.


Storm Hunter
(Veteran Storm Chaser)
Sun Aug 03 2008 11:03 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard

the latest vortex report.. pressure up 1mb to 1003mb... but i was interested in the HDOB and SFMR data...

A. Time of Center Fix: 3rd day of the month at 22:22:10Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 28°04'N 88°04'W (28.07N 88.07W)

D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 55kts (~ 63.3mph)

Maximum Flight Level Wind: 53kts (~ 61.0mph) in the northeast quadrant at 22:18:10Z
Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: 35kts (~ 40.3mph) in the southwest quadrant at 22:23Z
Sea Level Pressure Extrapolation From: 1,500 feet

Appears that the strongest winds are on the NE side... and are pretty strong right now. Looks to me the center is almost exposed on the west and northwest side... ???


danielwAdministrator
(Moderator)
Sun Aug 03 2008 11:26 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard

That VORTEX message would indicate that the Flight Level Winds are mixing all the way down to the surface!! That's is not a Normal Observation.
Surface winds are normally estimated to be 90% of the 700mb or 10000ft Flight Level Wind.

Strange Storm. That surface wind... if it's correct, is just 10 mph or so, shy of Hurricane Force winds.


Hugh
(Senior Storm Chaser)
Mon Aug 04 2008 12:02 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard

What's the shear like near the storm? It looks on the satellite like there's some moderate to storm shear, which would prevent strengthening - yet the vortex messages indicate storm winds.

Remember proper Forum posting and using the PM feature for questions.


Storm Cooper
(User)
Mon Aug 04 2008 12:23 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard

This is a re-post from the last Thread... read it!

Two items to take note of:
1) 'bets', 'hunches' and model projection posts belong in the Forecast Lounge.

2) In the last few days there has been quite a few one-line posts. Just a reminder that CFHC is not a chat room and that these types of posts are likely to be deleted or sent to the Graveyard. Your help on this is solicited.
ED


Old Sailor
(Storm Tracker)
Mon Aug 04 2008 01:13 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard

The only good thing about Edouard will only have a about 48 hrs to to rev up in the bath tub known as the GOM. just hope it doesn't slow down...

Storm Hunter
(Veteran Storm Chaser)
Mon Aug 04 2008 01:26 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard

Quote:

Surface winds are normally estimated to be 90% of the 700mb or 10000ft Flight Level Wind.





they should have been lower then the normal 700mb flight level... matter of fact they were flying at about 168 meters (~ 551 feet) durning that part of the leg... went back to find where the max flight level wind was at... i could only find the 18:30 after one... not the "Maximum Flight Level Wind: 53kts (~ 61.0mph) in the northeast quadrant at 22:18:10Z"... so i'm not sure what the reduction rate is on that... i see they bumped the 8pm adv. up to 50mph... WoW.. from a Low to TD to TS all less than 16 hrs... crazy


Time: 22:18:30Z
Coordinates: 28.20N 87.95W
Acft. Static Air Press: 984.1 mb (~ 29.06 inHg)
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 197 meters (~ 646 feet)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 1007.0 mb (~ 29.74 inHg)
D-value: -
Flt. Lvl. Wind (30s): From 133° at 46 knots (From the SE at ~ 52.9 mph)
Air Temp: 20.3°C (~ 68.5°F)
Dew Pt: 20.0°C (~ 68.0°F)
Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 49 knots (~ 56.3 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: -
SFMR Rain Rate: -


danielwAdministrator
(Moderator)
Mon Aug 04 2008 02:34 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard

I failed to look at the aircraft altittude. Shame on me. The surface winds at the 1500 foot level would be fairly close to the 1500ft level winds. I'll have to look up the NHC correction and see what they use.
Judging from the latest Advisory it must be close to 95% of Flight Level Winds at 1500ft.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutwindprofile.shtml#fig1

The strongest winds in the eyewall are found near 500 m (1600 ft) elevation; these are about 20% higher than the 700 mb wind, owing to the warm-core nature of the tropical cyclone.

note: this refers to the Eyewall winds.~danielw


Unregistered User
(Unregistered)
Mon Aug 04 2008 03:19 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard Forms in Gulf of Mexico Tropical Storm Warnings up in Louisiana

what are the chances of this hitting the panama city area, becuase one slight turn, and florida could be in a bad perdicument, for isntance, if it takes a dip south, and restrengthens, and comes back north towards panama city, we could be in a bad situation, right?

LoisCane
(Veteran Storm Chaser)
Mon Aug 04 2008 04:08 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard Forms in Gulf of Mexico Tropical Storm Warnings up in Louisiana

Edouard looks weak and shows badly on satellite imagery. There is an exciting pulse of convection but it is not where the storm is supposed to be. Run this loop and click on the points and you will see it is far to the south.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/sloop-avn.html

On the other hand if the storm reformed under this ball of convection we could have a whole new ball game. A stronger storm, more put together and that would allow for some real intensification. Note I carefully said "real" not "rapid" as there is a rush to use that word these days.

It is a Tropical Storm but looks more like a depression turning into a storm to my eyes. Still coming together.

11pm discussion was not that conclusive as to the end game.

If Edouard was as neatly wound as that Atlantic Wave (99) then I would worry more on how high he could ramp up.

Storms forming in the Gulf close in have to be watched carefully and can the situation can change fast. There is no real time to prepare unless it stalls. NHC has it moving slowly west and hopefully that will help move it along. As a lot of Gulf Coast cities will be to it's north there is a chance that many areas can get a lot of weather.

This is a tropical Storm still and we need not to look at an "eye" like path or point but a whole area of weather that may develop into something stronger but for now it is a Tropical Storm, barely and still pulling itself together.


Storm Hunter
(Veteran Storm Chaser)
Mon Aug 04 2008 05:27 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard Forms in Gulf of Mexico Tropical Storm Warnings up in Louisiana

looks like to me Edouard took a beating this evening.... the center looks to have MOVED WAY to the west? (A BIG JUMP???) it was moving at 5mph in the 11pm adv. but looking at the sats... i think it gone more than 25 miles this evening?
Shortwave

Recon is about to the "center area" and we should no soon.... it almost looks like the low spunn its self up and then shot to the west some? north of all the deep convection. Clearly the center looks exposed on sats.

UPDATE: Based on recon data comin in... looks to me the center went about 85miles to the wsw of the 00Z position? near 28.03N 89.57W with pressure of 1006mb? will see in a little bit


Unregistered User
(Unregistered)
Mon Aug 04 2008 05:23 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard Forms in Gulf of Mexico Tropical Storm Warnings up in Louisiana

Call me crazy but we have a probable tropical storm which could become a catagory 1 hurricane....and there are no comments? By this time in the past....there would be lots of folks following the progression. I am a lurker since '04 and have learned much from the experts and quasi-experts on the site....where are you all now?

rmbjoe1954
(Weather Master)
Mon Aug 04 2008 06:03 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard Forms in Gulf of Mexico Tropical Storm Warnings up in Louisiana

Well IMHO I see warm cloud tops to the northwest of Edouard. This tells me it should not gaining much in strength..yet.

MikeCAdministrator
(Admin)
Mon Aug 04 2008 06:14 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard Forms in Gulf of Mexico Tropical Storm Warnings up in Louisiana

Quote:

Call me crazy but we have a probable tropical storm which could become a catagory 1 hurricane....and there are no comments? By this time in the past....there would be lots of folks following the progression. I am a lurker since '04 and have learned much from the experts and quasi-experts on the site....where are you all now?




Edouard isn't going to do much, it's chances for becoming a hurricane are running out very quickly, it'll likely bring some rain and a bit of wind. The catch is (from newer visible satellite photos) it may be trying to organize again, so I still think people should prepare for a category 1.

When things like that (it seems Texas is not a big a draw as the east coast for reasons I really don't understand either) things are quiet. After 2004 and 2005 cfhc went into a permanent lockdown.

EditI moved further site discussion over here



Beaumont, TX
(Storm Tracker)
Mon Aug 04 2008 06:54 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard Forms in Gulf of Mexico Tropical Storm Warnings up in Louisiana

No, Texas does not seem to be as big of a draw. Ed looks so tiny out there in the big old Gulf. He's spinning...he's trying...but just won't have the time
or the perfect conditions. We should get rain, maybe some wind here on the upper Texas coast if he makes landfall in Galveston.


danielwAdministrator
(Moderator)
Mon Aug 04 2008 07:49 PM
Attachment
Edouard

Using the visible satellite from 1818Z, see attachment.

Edouard has completed about 80% of a complete wraparound. It appears that dry air entrainment is one of the reasons for the incomplete wrap. Notice the lack, or near absence of cloud and cloud streets in the band between the date and time. (The band of blue that wraps into the west side of Edouard). This wraps into the Western Semicircle of Edouard between the SW and W Quadrants.

Remainder of the GOM is NOW beginning to contribute to Edouard's inflow.
Cloud streets are noted as far south as the Bay of Campeche', and the Yucatan Peninsula. On the eastern side it appears that inflow from the Tampa/ Jacksonville area is also beginning.

To the NE of Edouard over extreme SE MS and SW AL there are large cumulus buildups with heavy rain in them. This outer band has been trying to intensify since 10 AM EDT this morning. I noticed a strange anomaly in the visible satellite and radar photos earlier. Close examination of the outer bands would show that the two arcing bands, over LA and MS, don't line up, Band currently over AL and MS would be centered a bit further east than the band currently over LA. Edouard may have a slight internal tilt. Somewhat like a tilted tornado or waterspout.

Something tells me Edouard has a few more surprises in his Vortex. Might need to keep an eye on this one!


craigm
(Storm Tracker)
Mon Aug 04 2008 09:39 PM
Re: Edouard

Here is some recent recon info on Edouard: This info is also on the main page under 'recon info'
Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 4th day of the month at 21:14Z
Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 308)
Mission: Non-Tasked Mission, possibly not tropical (in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Identifier: Edouard1
Mission Number: 3
Observation Number: 13
A. Time of Center Fix: 4th day of the month at 20:44:30Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 28°12'N 91°30'W (28.20N 91.50W)
B. Center Fix Location: 143 miles (230 km) to the SSE (167°) from Lafayette, LA, USA.
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 1,427m (4,682ft) at an unspecified standard level
D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 34kts (~ 39.1mph)
E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind: 15 nautical miles (17 statute miles) to the SW (228°) of center fix
F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 307° at 39kts (From the NW at ~ 44.9mph)
G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 33 nautical miles (38 statute miles) to the SW (228°) of center fix
H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 999mb (29.50 inHg)
I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 16°C (61°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,560m (5,118ft)
J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 20°C (68°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,505m (4,938ft)
K. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 16°C (61°F)
K. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
L. Eye Character: Not Available
M. Eye Shape: Not Available
N. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind, Pressure and Temperature
N. Fix Level: 850mb
O. Navigation Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles
O. Meteorological Accuracy: 2 nautical miles
Remarks Section - Remarks That Were Decoded...
Maximum Flight Level Wind: 47kts (~ 54.1mph) in the northwest quadrant at 19:08:30Z
Remarks Section - Additional Remarks...
RADAR INDICATES CIRCULAR BANDING CONSISTENT WITH FIX ON EAST SIDE, 25 PERCENT COMPLETE.


cieldumort
(Moderator)
Mon Aug 04 2008 09:47 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard Forms in Gulf of Mexico Tropical Storm Warnings up in Louisiana

Edouard is undergoing a bit of a metamorphosis this afternoon. As the cyclone continues to improve structurally, its windfield is also expanding, bringing tropical storm force winds to a much wider area. Outflow continues to improve, such that the cyclone is now breathing easier, even a little bit now in the northwest quad. The entire gulf is its oyster, as low level inflow continues to inject warm, moist air into the system. This inflow is doing battle royale against repeated partial dry air intrusions wrapping in from the north and northwest.

Given the ongoing trend of improving structure and deepening pressure, it continues to be entirely reasonable to assume that Edouard may very well make landfall as a high-end tropical storm or low-end hurricane. As the most recent discussion out of NHC points out, there is very little practical difference between the two. Conditions would be very challenging along and near wherever the center makes landfall.. and perhaps a good bit inland, should the cyclone progress at a fast-enough clip. It is always wise to keep in mind that intensity is the most difficult, and often the most erroneous, part of a tropical cyclone forecast.

As for track, Edouard continues to travel a little bit left of many best guesses for today, but is still widely expected to begin a turn more decidedly to the west-northwest, and in fact, now more models are calling for an ever greater hook to the right in response to a passing trof to its north. Along this forecast track, much more of north central Texas may experience numerous showers and possibly some heavier rain squalls with gusty winds.

It is almost a once in generation event for a tropical cyclone to produce sizable swaths of wind damage more than a 100 miles or so inland from the Texas coast, and this is certainly not the main concern with Edouard. Of some concern could be flooding, provided the cyclone slows down, stalls out or just dumps out... but, given that it might try to hitch a faster ride on the coattails of the passing trof, that does not look to be the most probable outcome, at this time.. although, this is truly subject to change.. especially considering how it is still trending a bit more due west than called for.

Brief inland tornadoes are always a threat in Texas from landfalling tropical cyclones, and this threat will likely persist along and to the right of the center of circulation well-inland, and through at least mid-week. Damaging wind gusts produced from downdrafts within some of the stronger supercells may also occur, even long after landfall.


MikeCAdministrator
(Admin)
Mon Aug 04 2008 11:39 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard Forms in Gulf of Mexico Tropical Storm Warnings up in Louisiana

I'm recording the level 3 radar for Edouard now, you can see it at http://flhurricane.com/imageanimator.php?45

From this and Recon it appears that Edouard is slowing or behaving erratically now, and may be influenced a bit north, or more likely some reformation is happening. This should be something to watch through the evening closely.

Edouard is still fighting some dry air too.


danielwAdministrator
(Moderator)
Mon Aug 04 2008 11:55 PM
Edouard changes??

Current radar loop from LIX-Slidell,LA is showing what appears to be a slowdown and a slight shift to the North.

I've received at least one PM with the same description. Still looking for more data.

Latest VORTEX message has the pressure at 999mb. While the winds are still on the low end of the Tropical Storm threshold at :
03 AF 08/04 22:18:00Z 999mb (~29.50 inHg)
Highest Inbound Flt. Lvl. Wind 46kts(~52.9mph)
Highest Max Flt. Wind_______49kts(~56.3mph)
Highest Surface Wind_______41kts(~47.1mph)

Pressure is falling slowly, but the wind field has not spun up in response... yet.
Once the eyewall has wrapped or closed Edouard may intensify at a faster pace.

URNT12 KNHC 042243 CCB
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL052008
A. 04/22:18:00Z
B. 28 deg 19 min N
091 deg 28 min W
C. NA mb 1423 m
D. 32 kt
E. 307 deg 067 nm
F. 046 deg 037 kt
G. 304 deg 054 nm
H. 999 mb
I. 16 C/ 1566 m
J. 20 C/ 1491 m
K. 16 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 12345/8
O. 0.03 / 2 nm
P. AF308 0305A EDOUARD1 OB 17 CCB
MAX FL WIND 49 KT N QUAD 21:18:40 Z
MAX OUTBOUND WIND 48 KTS AT 22:23:00 Z
RADAR BANDING CONSISTENT WITH FL CENTER FIX POSITION. BAND CONVECTION HAS REDUCED, BUT ORGANIZATION HAS IMPROVED.


LoisCane
(Veteran Storm Chaser)
Tue Aug 05 2008 12:27 AM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard Forms in Gulf of Mexico Tropical Storm Warnings up in Louisiana

Edouard is still fighting dry air but he is pulling himself together. You can see banding on both radar and sat images.
He is way too close to land to count him out and I think it's possible he could intensify more so tonight.

This is a storm that many people across a wide area will feel weather from him in one form or the other and
tornadoes are expected and may be further away from the center of landfall so this storm should be
monitored carefully.

Also, as he is so close to land any kwirky movements or a faster forward speed could change the picture quickly for both parishes in Louisiana and areas in Texas.

A lot of people could get severe weather from this storm across a wide area and focusing on landfall at Galveston Bay
where tv mets are setting up for good footage would be wrong as there are many river towns and bayou areas that
are not as well known or photogenic that can receive serious damage.

http://www.joesdiscoweathercentral.com/Storm_Floater_Radar.html

Good loop.

Also... both Sabine River and Galveston Bay are large watershed, estuary areas that have their own ecosystem.

Hard to tell if the movement is off but thanks for the great loop posted, there is so much to look at with a storm this close in it's hard to tell where to look first.

Hope the timing is right and not off on this landfall.


danielwAdministrator
(Moderator)
Tue Aug 05 2008 01:57 AM
Satellite Outage

Bad timing on a server outage for satellite coverage of Edouard. Thankfully the storm is near shore and is partially covered by NWS Radar.

Some websites are still operational, but the SSD links are currently out and blank.~danielw

*Details of the Outage:
*
ESPC is not processing GOES-12 (EAST) and GOES-11 (WEST) imagery due to
problems with SATEPSDIST2E and SATEPSDIST3E servers.
A systems administration person is investigating the problem.

*The following products could be affected:
*
All products generated from GOES EAST and WEST data.

*Date and Time of the Outage:
*
8/4/2008, 1800 UTC 02:00 PM EDT

*Length of the Outage:Until further notice
*Contact Point for Questions:
ESPC Operations OCL

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/SATS/bulletins.html


Storm Hunter
(Veteran Storm Chaser)
Tue Aug 05 2008 07:52 AM
Attachment
Re: Satellite Outage

See attached level II nexrad image:

Edouard is a few hrs from making landfall... looks to me the Northern Eyewall is about 15 miles off shore of the TX/LA coast line... pressure is holding around 997mb, but the winds did come up some... recon is just off of cameron, LA... about 7miles offshore, turning and heading back inward to center. Looks like landfall at or near or just west of the border of TX/LA as a strong Tropical Storm... i don't think Edouard will make it to Hurricane strength at this moment... running out of time/water.


UPDATE... Recon went back through... pressure still holding at 997mb
Maximum Flight Level Wind: 68kts (~ 78.3mph) in the north quadrant at 7:04:10Z
N. Fix Level: 850mb

Anyone having problems getting AF302 data? it comes and goes... wonder if its an older model


Beaumont, TX
(Storm Tracker)
Tue Aug 05 2008 10:37 AM
Re: Satellite Outage

According to our local met Ed may be about 30 minutes from landfall. Rain and wind here. Pressure is dropping at Sabine Pass-29.44. Very small
storm but seems to be encompassing Southeast Texas and Southwest Louisiana. Should have brief heavy downpours throughout the morning.


cieldumort
(Moderator)
Tue Aug 05 2008 07:00 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard Makes Landfall on Upper Texas Coast

Inland and winding down. Eduard now goes from a slight risk of wind damage and of tornadoes threat, to increasingly mostly a flood threat. So far today, several inches have fallen in and around the upper Texas coast, including much of the Houston area, and the system is slowly progressing inland.

Edouard has been losing a lot of his deep convection due to all of the hot, dry air that has owned this state, literally choking the cyclone. In this weakening state, it appears the cyclone may actually begin getting pulled into the left side of the cone of uncertainty, in response to the better convection that is closest to and over the water. Eventually, perhaps even many parts of I35 in central Texas will receive at least a couple of tenths of an inch or more.

What becomes a bit more of a challenge to forecasters, and perhaps ultimately emergency managers as well, is how the decay of Edouard plays out. What Texas desperately needs right now is just a really good dousing, just up to the line, and without any of the floods we are often notorious for.

If Edouard unravels and its remnant moisture and vorticity are swept up and away from any number of possible nearby short and longwaves, c'est la vie... If, on the other hand, it slows down and is not ripped apart or dried out, there might even be some pretty hefty nocturnal core rains in addition to daytime activity, over the next few - especially if the remnants somehow stall and spin out over the same general area. That type of set up causes very big headaches around here. Ideally, Texas ends up with something right in the middle of those two extreme possibilities.


Brett Addison
(Registered User)
Wed Aug 06 2008 01:00 PM
Re: Tropical Storm Edouard Makes Landfall on Upper Texas Coast

Seems to me like the tropics are winding down. Non of the computer models are picking up on anything developing in the next week or so but that could change at a moments notice. I wonder if we reached the peak of hurricane season last month? It's hard to tell when the normal peak of the hurricane season is still a month away and it doesn't take long for storms to develop. To me it seems the waves coming off Africa aren't as strong as they were back in July.


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