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11PM EDT 7 July 2010 Update The second Tropical Depression of 2010 forms, landfall in northern Mexico expected tomorrow evening. Tropical Storm Warnings from Baffin Bay, TX southward to San Fernando in Mexico. Warnings were issued since there is a chance it could become a Tropical Storm tomorrow. If it were to be named, it would be called Bonnie. There is a fair chance it will not strengthen into a tropical storm also. This will primarily be another rainfall event for South Texas as well, on top of what they got last week from Alex. 8:30PM EDT 7 July 2010 Update {{TexasGulfRadar}} {{NorthGulfRadar}} Cameron County Texas, Scanner Audio Feed (Police/Fire/EMT) -- Brownsville Area Cameron County, TX Emergency Operations Center Southeast Texas Power Outage Map Weather Observations: Corpus Christi, Texas Kingsville NAS, Texas Harlingen, Texas Brownsville, Texas Matamoros, Mexico Ciudad Victoria, Mexico Tampico, Mexico Local Media: Brownsville Herald The Monitor South Padre Island Breeze Valley Morning Star KGBT 4 News KRGV Newschannel 5 KVEO News Channel 23 KURV 710 News/Talk Radio {{StormCarib}} {{StormLinks|TD#2|02|2|2010|2|TD#2}} 3PM EDT 7 July 2010 Update Chances for development have gone up since this morning, as the wave in the gulf (96L) looks better organized this afternoon. If it does develop it will likely be tomorrow, and the most likely landfall point is in northern Mexico. It is likely to remain weak, even if it becomes a depression. 7AM EDT 7 July 2010 Update The wave being tracked over the last few days is now in the Gulf, and chances for development are (as of 2AM) 40%, but it appears most likely it will not develop, at least not today. Convection did not refire overnight and it is very ragged appearing on satellite imagery. The recon flight scheduled for today is likely to be canceled. Things in favor of development is that it now has a low level circulation, a bit large or broad, but it's there. The most likely outcome from 96L is some more rain in areas that already had seen a lot from Alex. It's likely to come ashore around northern Mexico/South Texas, probably as a wave or depression, but nothing much more than that. Conditions in the tropics right now are relatively hostile for development in general. The wave still should be watched in case any organization changes happen, but odds are against it. If it were to develop, Thursday afternoon/evening would be the most likely time. Nothing else in the basin has a shot at development for the next few days, longer term there is a wave off Africa that may be worth watching to see if it persists, but it's still a bit too early to expect things out there. 7AM EDT 6 July 2010 Update The low in the Gulf moved ashore last night and is bringing rainfall and some winds to a small area in Louisiana. The wave in the west Caribbean (96L) has not really organized overnight, and there appears to be no closed low level circulation. So 30% is still about right for that. It's very likely that the recon flight scheduled for today will be canceled. It is still worth watching for later in the week, however. Shear is really affecting this system, and it will struggle to get wrapped into a symmetrical circulation. That and the upper level low to the west and trough to the east will also keep overall development chances low. If it does develop, look toward the end of the week. Still those in Mexico and Texas will want to watch this for any signs of development, especially once it is in the Gulf of Mexico. Most likely it is a rainmaker for Texas and nothing more. Cancun Radar Recording of 96L approach The other areas being tracked have all fallen apart. The eastern Caribbean wave is near Puerto Rico now, and other than the ones mentioned there is a reprieve in Tropical Activity. 7PM EDT 5 July 2010 Update The low in the gulf (95L) is approaching land and has suddenly spun up again, and has a 60% chance of potential to become a depression or Tropical storm before landfall. Currently no Tropical Storm Watches/Warnings are up. This small system did something similar yesterday, where it spun up relatively quickly and then went down again. Radar from the area ({{radarlink|lix|New Orleans, LA Radar}}) is showing it still offshore. Original Update The National Hurricane Center's tropical weather outlook has 3 areas to watch. The first area, 95L in the Gulf, is a very small low pressure area that, for a bit yesterday, spun up quite a bit. Even though in all likelihood nothing will ever develop out of the system, it still needs to be watched because it is so small and so close to land. It has the potential to spin up very quickly because of the small size, but more likely to spin out/down ever faster. Conditions around it favor no development. The second area being tracked is the tropical wave (96L) in the Western Caribbean. It has the best chance,currently, of all the areas to develop, but looks to remain on the weaker side. Looking at satellite imagery this morning it is not looking that great. It is on the edge of a shear zone, and it has ok outflow, but it hasn't really persisted enough. It still has a fairly high chance of development, but just not today. If this one develops, it is most likely going to stay weak. It is bringing rainfall to the Caymans and the Yucatan. With 96L being a weaker system it implies a more westerly move, but the overall patter is less so than it was for Alex. Recon was scheduled to go out to the system today, but it was canceled because of how poorly organized it looks this morning. They may try again tomorrow. The final wave is in the east Caribbean which may be worth watching later in the week when it arrives in the western side, but until then it'll just be watched. The area northeast of the Bahamas is now off the list. |
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Even though 96L has become more disorganized since last night, I would not write it off just yet. Its circulation still appears to be intact, and if it can get more storms to wrap around it, we may have a tropical depression sometime tonight or tomorrow. Since the center of 96L has shifted quite a bit north from its 06z position, the model tracks are now taking it in to Texas. My only real concern for its development is the dry air it has taken in because it still appears that shear is not much of an issue. |
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95L has been dumping rain here in S (and central) FL for THREE days now. I was in central FL for the holiday weekend and it was a complete wash out. Nothing real heavy (some lighting) but constant, low, dark clouds and light to moderate rain for hours at a time. |
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Quote: Here in Tampa we haven't really seen the sun since Saturday and then only briefly. Very odd for this time of year. We keep getting impulses of light/moderate rain in off the GOM out of the southwest every 3-6 hours. Tampa radar showing a bit of spinning motion centered about 100 miles off shore although the way things are moving, it is likely nothing more than random cloud/rain movements. Could have gone home early from work today, but I figured, WHY? |
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Here in Orlando it has been overcast and rainy for most of the weekend. Has anyone noticed the uptick in activity over South Florida and the SE Gulf coast? Is this something to watch??? |
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There is a diffuse stationary front that lies from St. Augustine WSW to the west coast of FL and an argument could be made there's nothing left of it. In the upper air is where things are complicated. There is an upper low and/or inverted upper trough draping the entire northern Gulf coast extending W and SW to another upper low off the Southern TX coast. Hot upper ridge over the NE USA and a deeper upper low off DELMARVA. Forcast has another upper long wave trough for the Eastern US broader and reaching the Deep South in 4 to 5 days. Models have whatever may develop with a date with S TX but wind shear analysis has the western and central GOM and the W Caribbean open for business, despite an upper low off the S TX coast. If a depression develops, the upcoming upper pattern will be very, very complicated. |
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Invest 95L located at 28.7N 91W at 05/18Z. From NHC at 2110Z: " SMALL WELL-DEFINED LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED ABOUT 50 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA IS MOVING ONSHORE TERREBONNE PARISH NEAR CAILLOU BAY. DOPPLER RADAR AND SATELLITE DATA INDICATE THAT SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR TROPICAL-STORM-FORCE COULD OCCUR ACROSS TERREBONNE PARISH...ESPECIALLY IN TERREBONNE BAY...LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING AS THE SYSTEM MOVES ONSHORE. THERE IS A HIGH CHANCE...60 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE BEFORE IT MOVES ONSHORE." Heavy rainfall likely in portions of Louisiana this evening and Tuesday. ED |
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I keep thinking how 95L is one of those systems where different opinions may be found in some abundance. For example, my own take is that 95L has sufficiently qualified as a tropical cyclone for the past 36 hours or so. And if the on again off again nature of NHC's new color-coded system (down to "almost 0%" earlier this afternoon, then Shazam! now up to "60%" late this afternoon) is any indication, there may even be a bit of official disagreement as to how to handle this one in real-time. I expect that many a postmortem of the system will confirm 95L to be a TD/perhaps weak TS - and it still remains to be seen if we get to see an official bump now. If not now, perhaps we will post-season. Regardless of how 95L gets handled operationally, the fact is, it is just now starting to come ashore, and as noted by NHC, is packing areas of near tropical storm force winds and some heavy rain, and save academia, this is what we really need to be focusing on right now, anyway. So vacationers and residents directly in the path of 95L, particularly locations along its right front quadrant, should now be prepared for the likelihood of some imminent moderate to heavy rain, a chance of some pockets of tropical storm force winds - at least in the gusts, and a risk of some isolated waterspouts or tornadoes. |
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Well, the NHC has dropped 95L back to near 0% since they say it is moving inland. I think it did make it to at least tropical depression status in my opinion. |
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Just not sure about 96L... I attached a sat pic and placed where i think a surface coc would be. The movement would take it NW across land into the SGOM. |
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Thanks Mike, Being in the Fl Keys, I'm mostly watching the waves to my east. My friends in Texas still need to watch 96L which flared up this eve. I cut down >800 gallons of top heavy trees today and hope to keep up this weekly pace through the rest of this month. Now is the time to check one's list and prepare. Hope everyone is getting ready. - good eve - Rod ] |
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Special Marine Warning continues for the waters off southern Louisiana for winds at or above 34 knots and waterpouts. 1100 PM CDT MON JUL 5 2010 ...A SPECIAL MARINE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1130 PM CDT... FOR THE FOLLOWING AREA... WATERS FROM LOWER ATCHAFALAYA RIVER TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LA FROM 20 TO 60 NM OVER GULF OF MEXICO WATERS... AT 1054 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR CONTINUED TO INDICATE A LINE OF THUNDERSTORMS...CAPABLE OF PRODUCING WATERSPOUTS. AT 1031 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR CONTINUED TO INDICATE A LINE OF THUNDERSTORMS...PRODUCING STRONG WINDS 34 KNOTS OR GREATER FROM 9 NM NORTHEAST OF MARSH ISLAND TO 16 NM SOUTH OF MARSH ISLAND...MOVING WEST AT 10 KNOTS. THESE STRONG THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE NEAR VERMILION BAY BY 1130 PM CDT... |
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Looking at the radar, I don't think that 95L has actually moved inland. It appears as if it is moving north-northwest, so it is still moving along the edge of the coastline. Cloud tops on 95L are still cooling. It definitely is not dying out too soon tonight. |
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Near perfect example of backing winds associated with a low moving through the area. Last 6 hours of Lake Charles,LA airport observations. Wind direction has backed from 060 to 340 in 6 hours. KLCH 061131Z 34005KT 9SM BKN009 26/23 A2984 RMK AO2 $ KLCH 061053Z AUTO 34006KT 10SM BKN011 OVC033 26/23 A2983 RMK AO2 SLP107 T02610233 $ KLCH 061044Z AUTO 35005KT 10SM BKN013 26/23 A2982 RMK AO2 $ KLCH 061013Z AUTO 01009KT 10SM OVC015 26/23 A2982 RMK AO2 $ KLCH 061002Z AUTO 36005KT 10SM OVC013 26/23 A2983 RMK AO2 $ KLCH 060953Z AUTO 01007KT 10SM OVC015 26/23 A2983 RMK AO2 SLP108 T02610233 $ KLCH 060948Z AUTO 01006KT 10SM BKN013 OVC018 26/23 A2983 RMK AO2 $ KLCH 060853Z AUTO 02006KT 10SM BKN015 BKN021 OVC034 26/23 A2983 RMK AO2 SLP108 T02610233 56012 $ KLCH 060823Z AUTO 03006KT 10SM BKN017 OVC025 26/23 A2983 RMK AO2 $ KLCH 060815Z AUTO 03003KT 10SM SCT017 OVC025 26/23 A2983 RMK AO2 $ KLCH 060753Z AUTO 04005KT 10SM BKN017 26/23 A2983 RMK AO2 SLP110 T02560233 $ KLCH 060743Z AUTO 04004KT 10SM BKN017 BKN023 26/23 A2983 RMK AO2 $ KLCH 060732Z AUTO 02004KT 10SM SCT017 BKN023 26/23 A2984 RMK AO2 $ KLCH 060653Z AUTO 06004KT 10SM CLR 26/23 A2985 RMK AO2 SLP115 T02610233 $ Vortice center of 95L can be seen on the storm relative velocity product from Lake Charles,LA NWS radar. Center is roughly where the dark green and the gold are closest together on the second circle from the center of the radar. See label. |
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Added Cancun Radar Recording: Cancun Radar Recording of 96L approach |
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96L seems to have a nice blow-up of convection this morning. It will be interesting to see if it can sustain this convection over land, or if it will fizzle before moving into the Gulf of Mexico. I think it will probably move into the gulf later this afternoon or evening (20z or so). 96L should move into a more favorable area for development tonight and tomorrow. By more favorable, I mean less shear. With that being said, I think this system has a 50/50 chance of developing in the next 24 hours. |
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So is it just me or is there a completely separate broad low-level circulation along 25N 90W? http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/flash-rgb.html http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic2/real-...zoom=&time= |
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Gonzo and Kermit are up doing a research mission around 96L. So expect tonights model runs to get a better handle on 96L. 42RF just took off at top of hour and 49RF is halfway through its mission! |
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I see the one at 25N...but there is one more pronounced now over the Yucatan getting ready to enter the gulf |
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Yes I agree, the one over the central gulf is very broad still, and as the day has gone by, the emergence of the circulation over the yucatan has definitely become the more defined feature. This thing needs to go away!! I want my beach vacation this weekend in Rockport! |
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"So is it just me or is there a completely separate broad low-level circulation along 25N 90W?" Is the circulation you mentioned the same one being mentioned in this forecast discussion? AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX 347 PM CDT TUE JUL 6 2010 .DISCUSSION... MAIN REGIONAL ITEMS OF NOTE INCLUDE THE UPPER LOW EAST OF THE LOWER TX COAST...THE SURFACE LOW ON THE SABINE JUST SOUTH OF KSHV...AN UPPER RIDGE OVER N TX AND THE BIG BEND...AND THE TROPICAL WAVE OVER THE SE GULF AND W CARIBBEAN. |
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From the latest Slidell,LA Discussion. THE BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPING IN THE WESTERN CARIBBEAN NEAR THE NORTHERN YUCATAN PENINSULA CONTINUES TO MAINTAIN AND ENHANCE ITS THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT AS PER IR SATELLITE IMAGERY...HOWEVER THE LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION CONTINUES TO REMAIN DETACHED FROM THE MID-LEVEL CONVECTION AT THE PRESENT TIME. AS A DEEP HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM...CAUSING TRIPLE DIGIT HEAT ACROSS THE EASTERN SEABOARD...AND A MID-LEVEL LOW CENTERED NEAR 30E/60W MAINTAIN THEIR HOLD...IT WOULD SEEM THAT THE SYSTEM WILL STAY TO OUR SOUTH AND WEST AS IT MOVES THROUGH THE SOUTHERN GULF. AT THE PRESENT TIME...INVEST TRACKS AND MODELS SHOW THAT THE SYSTEM WILL MAINTAIN ITS SOUTHERLY COURSE...BUT WITHOUT A CENTER TO INITIALIZE ON...IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR ANY MODEL TO MAINTAIN MUCH ACCURACY. CURRENT SATELLITE IMAGERY...THOUGH HAS REVEALED THAT THE LOW IN THE WESTERN ATLANTIC IS SINKING SOUTHWARD...WHICH INCREASES CONFIDENCE THAT GUIDANCE IS ON TRACK. http://www.srh.noaa.gov/productview.php?pil=AFDLIX&max=61 |
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The broad low-pressure area in the Central Gulf of Mexico that was previously mentioned continues to flare up in addition to 96L. If you look at the 18z NAM model, it spins up a low which could be tropical toward Texas late tomorrow evening. Is this what it could be picking up on, or is it just messed up due to 96L having no clearly defined center? |
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Just watching TWC, which showed an area of concern in the Atlantic near the islands. I waited for Jim Cantore to comment, but he didn't. Anyone have any info on that...it's now showing on the NHC site. |
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I think that what has been confusing is that there are 2 distinct areas in the gulf being talked about. One is a LLC in the GOM and one looks like a MLC trying to get down to the surface. I have attached a graphic to try to make this easier to see (for those not used to staring at satellite data for hours...which isn't many of us but a few ;-) |
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What appears to be the low-level circulation of 96L is now moving offshore of the Yucatan Peninsula. This is slightly south and east of where the models indicated on the 00z run.From what I can tell (as of 0400) on the infrared satellite, it is moving to the northwest. I think tomorrow will be interesting for 96L. |
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I took a look at the satellite image you posted and data that corresponded to it. There continues to be an upper low off the TX coast. At 850 millibars there is a mid to upper level inverted trough that extends from the Yucatan northward to the Northern GOM. At the surface the low over LA was attached to a weak warm front extending East and East-Southeast along the Northern GOM. Hot ridge over the NE USA and a large cutoff Upper Level Low to the ridge's east. That ridge is expected to break down and retrograde west as the large Upper Level Low moves west towards the coast. This pattern suggests no approach to the N GOM coast. Wind shear analysis is hostile to the Yucatan disturbance's north and east. This system will be slow to develop given the overall pattern in the Tropics. There is considerable wind shear all along the Tropics from west to east. |
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The NHC has raised 96L's chance of development from 40% to 50% in the afternoon update. It may be interesting to see what 96L does this afternoon and tonight; however, I still think its best chance for developing into a depression would be late tonight or tomorrow. Regardless of development, the folks here in Texas will have to watch out for brief tornadoes starting this evening in Southeast Texas and spreading northwest through the rest of the state tomorrow. |
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NHC has upped the odds of 96L developing to 80% as of the 8 PM EDT update. TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 800 PM EDT WED JUL 7 2010 FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO... A LARGE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED ABOUT 290 MILES SOUTHEAST OF THE TEXAS/MEXICO BORDER IS MOVING WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH. THIS SYSTEM HAS BECOME MUCH BETTER ORGANIZED THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING...AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY HAS BECOME MORE CONCENTRATED NEAR THE CENTER. TWO NOAA RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT ARE CURRENTLY CONDUCTING A RESEARCH MISSION IN AND AROUND THE DISTURBANCE...AND INFORMATION RECEIVED SO FAR SUGGESTS THAT A TROPICAL DEPRESSION MAY BE FORMING. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE CONDUCIVE FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT AND IF ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATION CONTINUES...THEN FORECAST ADVISORIES WILL BE INITIATED LATER TONIGHT OR THURSDAY MORNING...WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THAT TROPICAL STORM WATCHES OR WARNINGS BE ISSUED FOR PORTIONS OF THE COASTAL REGIONS OF CENTRAL AND LOWER TEXAS AND NORTHEASTERN MEXICO. THERE IS A HIGH CHANCE...80 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE. THIS DISTURBANCE IS FORECAST TO BRING LOCALLY HEAVY RAINS AND GUSTY WINDS TO PORTIONS OF EASTERN AND SOUTHERN TEXAS AND NORTHEASTERN MEXICO OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. $$ FORECASTER STEWART/CANGIALOSI From the Tropical Weather Discussion... ...SPECIAL FEATURES... A 1007 MB LOW IS CENTERED IN THE WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO NEAR 24N94W AND EXTENDS A SURFACE TROUGH FROM THE LOW TO THE TEXAS COAST NEAR FREEPORT...OR 29N95W. THIS EVENING THE SYSTEM CONTINUES TO ORGANIZE WITH SCATTERED MODERATE AND ISOLATED STRONG CONVECTION LOCATED FROM 20N-27N BETWEEN 91W-97W. MAXIMUM DAYTIME HEATING AND INSTABILITY HAVE ALSO GENERATED SCATTERED STRONG CONVECTION FARTHER SE AWAY FROM THE LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER OVER THE WESTERN YUCATAN PENINSULA FROM 17N-22N BETWEEN 88W-92W. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND ISOLATED TSTMS ARE ELSEWHERE OVER THE WESTERN GULF W OF 88W AND STRETCH INLAND OVER LOUISIANA AND EASTERN TEXAS. WITH THE LOW FORECAST TO TRACK NW OVER THE NEXT 24-36 HOURS...UPPER LEVEL WIND SHEAR VALUES REMAIN LOW AND UPPER LEVEL DIVERGENCE REMAINS HIGH OVER MUCH OF THE WESTERN GULF... PROVIDING THE SYSTEM WITH A FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT. NOAA Recon plane is currently flying a research mission in the area. Appear to have a broad circulation possibly centered near 23.5N/ 93.5W. Based on data from NOAA aircraft. |
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Is it really a named entity or a closed tropical depression... still looks like a Tropical Disturbance (at best) to me... know the planes are flying around looking for a closed center ... has running room but is it more than a tropical disturbance? |
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One of the classifications for a TD is convection, which it is lacking. Though they went ahead and classified it, even though it looks bad.. I just don't get it.. TD2 is here everyone, expecting advisory shortly with a TS watches/warnings from south Texas to the borderline of Mexico, a bit south of there as well. |
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Yeah best track has it as a depression, but it's actually looking weaker now, so they may hold off making it official. And they did... Tropical Storm Warnings from Baffin Bay, TX southward to San Fernando in Mexico. |