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a tad more won't hurt
      #14170 - Fri Apr 09 2004 01:57 AM

gray adds another system. the analog years speak volumes about how much real risk there is--all active seasons with little in the way of u.s. landfalls (minus carla in 1961). that's been the trend of the last decade, so probably nothing new for 2004. lots of stuff to track, and not a lot of trouble from it. perhaps i'm understating the risk, but usually you get closer to the truth that way. will have a deep layer low in the central atlantic southeast of bermuda this weekend, but of course it's april and it shouldn't do anything.
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Re: First Known South Atlantic Tropical Cyclone Forms
      #14171 - Fri Apr 09 2004 03:15 AM

Wow Hurricane, that was a great link. I was glad to see it, because I just happened to look at a whole disk picture the same time the other storm was off SA and wondered why no one was noting it!

Twice in one year...something IS up!

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Re: First Known South Atlantic Tropical Cyclone Forms
      #14172 - Fri Apr 09 2004 03:34 AM

Can't wait for the season to get here

I think we are going to have a most interesting season if all predections hold true.

I will be watching the season for sure



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Re: First Known South Atlantic Tropical Cyclone Forms
      #14173 - Fri Apr 09 2004 03:36 AM

YES thank you I can post again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I missed this a lot....

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Re: First Known South Atlantic Tropical Cyclone Forms
      #14174 - Fri Apr 09 2004 08:48 PM

Hey guys, i'm back for 2004 and will be posting my thoughts from over here in the UK. What about that SA Hurricane - it certainly was something wasn't it!?! I am still trying to gather as much information as i can about it, and will be preparing an online report over at CycloMax dealing with this storm.

However, the real point of my post is the development to the NE of the Lesser Antilles! Has anyone else noticed this? Apparently the folks at NHC have, as in the latest TWD they talk of some possible development, and a few models hint at this becoming a warm-core low pressure system!! I know its early, but dont forget Ana formed in April last year! Anyone have any thoughts on this?


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      #14175 - Fri Apr 09 2004 10:02 PM

yeah rich, i do. its april its april its april, that's not supposed to happen. still, i've been watching it too since happening to notice that conspicuous non-frontal low on the models for this weekend, back on late wednesday. checked the visible loop twice today; same hunch. didn't know the NHC discussion had anything, suppose i'll have to go read it. after all the out-of-season systems lately the NHC has its guard up. since we're on a run of oddballs, why not have an easter tropical cyclone?
before reading your post i was going to only mention the SST profile in the eastpac.. cold tongue more pronounced than it has been for a couple of years. ENSO looks to be tilting back that way--expect my 11 system guesscast for 2004 from november will tank worse than any yet, at this point.
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Re: central atlantic
      #14176 - Sat Apr 10 2004 03:54 AM

Yes, agree Richard. This is a very impressive low pressure system developing in the Atlantic. Models have been showing development in this area for the past few days, and tonights pix are showing circulation and some intense t'storm development. Let's see if upper level winds will allow further deepening. The models yesterday showed this low heading to the north between the ridges, but it could hang around a few days (Ana revisited?). Long range models also show the ITCZ active, with areas of low pressure uner 1008 mb. The eastern Atlantic is warm early this year, and with rising heat lowering the pressures out there, could be an active CV season. That coupled with the neutral ENSO conditions should make for an exciting summer. Cheers!! PS: I could log on with my password, but couldn't post under steve h. What's up with that?? :confused:

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Re: central atlantic
      #14177 - Sat Apr 10 2004 04:49 AM

Steve I had the same trouble but they did get mine fixed

going ot be a very interesting year for sure

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Warm or cool? Or both?
      #14178 - Sat Apr 10 2004 01:36 PM

I have been WOWED by the warming the Atlantic has seen in the past couple of weeks. We could see some crazy stuff this season if the various other factors are favorable.

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/products/OTIS/US058VMET-GIFwxg.OTIS.glbl_sstanomaly.gif

http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/data/anomnight.4.6.2004.gif

Opposite the Atlantic, the cool tongue in the eastern Pacific is persisting. We'll have to watch during the summer....


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      #14179 - Sun Apr 11 2004 08:13 PM

Cyclomax UK ( Tropical Cyclone Formation Alerts ) has issued a Tropical Cyclone formation alert for an area of thunderstorms in the central atlantic. Does anyone else see potential for development here, as i can't seem to find anything referencing development from the NHC or NRL.

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UKMET shows central atlantic suspect area
      #14180 - Mon Apr 12 2004 11:10 PM

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/sec2/sec2cyclone/tcgts/wtnt80.txt

Will this be ALEX or nothing will come out of this area? If it develops it will be history once again for a second year in a row.

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Re: UKMET shows central atlantic suspect area
      #14181 - Tue Apr 13 2004 10:27 AM

Hey guys,
models have been hinting at development in this general area for a few days now, so perhaps persistence is the key! Satellite imagery shows the convection remains elongated along the trough axis. NHC think the low will merge with another low to its northwest, perhaps this might give it the kick to develop further. Its only April, but i think this area bears watching still

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Re: UKMET shows central atlantic suspect area
      #14183 - Wed Apr 14 2004 11:09 PM

It doesn't look that promising, but hey, who knows?

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Re: UKMET shows central atlantic suspect area
      #14184 - Thu Apr 15 2004 02:00 PM

The low pressure area has now degenerated into a surface trough... looks like we are gonna have to wait a little longer for something to happen... but hey, the season begins in a few weeks

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Possible tropical cyclone tryed to form again in the south atlantic?
      #14187 - Sat Apr 17 2004 08:08 PM

Ir satellite of a area of low pressure at 20 south 25 west.
http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/pdus/AI/200404151200AI1_g.jpg
http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/pdus/AI/200404151800AI1_g.jpg
http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/pdus/AI/200404160000AI1_g.jpg
http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/pdus/AI/200404160600AI1_g.jpg
http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/pdus/AI/200404161200AI1_g.jpg

This area of low pressure/possible tropical cyclone moved into dry air in died.


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Re: Possible tropical cyclone tryed to form again in the south atlantic?
      #14188 - Sat Apr 17 2004 11:55 PM

The links all require a password to get in to them.....

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Re: Possible tropical cyclone tryed to form again in the south atlantic?
      #14189 - Sun Apr 18 2004 01:29 AM

Yes but you can sign up for free

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Re: Possible tropical cyclone tryed to form again in the south atlantic?
      #14190 - Mon Apr 19 2004 03:17 PM

I filled out the subscription form, but, no e-mail as indicated with a password has been received , fyi.

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Re: Possible tropical cyclone tryed to form again in the south atlantic?
      #14191 - Mon Apr 19 2004 04:53 PM

I completed the form and got a password. All is ok, but unless you live in the north atlantic, this is not much use. The only good imagery is of the entire earth, but cannot seem to get specific tropical imagery. If I have missed something, please let me know.

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Re: Possible tropical cyclone tryed to form again in the south atlantic?
      #14192 - Mon Apr 19 2004 05:29 PM

there apparantly were already two South Atlantic TC's before March
http://www.met-office.gov.uk/sec2/sec2cyclone/tcimages/Misc/V910413.gif
http://www.met-office.gov.uk/sec2/sec2cyclone/tcimages/Misc/jan2004sat.gif


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