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SirCane
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Re: Most recent models-note the more westerly track [Re: Unregistered User]
      #19055 - Wed Aug 11 2004 08:17 PM

Seems like Bonnie is wobbling a lot. ENE then NNE then back to NE. Strange.

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Re: Most recent models-note the more westerly track [Re: SirCane]
      #19056 - Wed Aug 11 2004 08:22 PM

don't they wobble when they intensify?? got all my stuff done.. i am ready for both.

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Re: Most recent models-note the more westerly track [Re: wxman007]
      #19057 - Wed Aug 11 2004 08:22 PM

wxman007 or anyone else who might know. With Bonnie moving northeast across the NE gulf, any chance the subsidence (sinking air) around the periphery of the storm will serve to enhance the ridge located over the SE gulf. And if that is possible, could this not steer Charley a little farther west than the models indicate before recurving it off to the northeast?

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Re: Most recent models-note the more westerly track [Re: Unregistered User]
      #19058 - Wed Aug 11 2004 08:25 PM

check the advisories on Charley. it will be influenced by trof, will start going nw then north over west cuba. then ne over fla, it wont go thru trof, to go to the west.

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Re: Most recent models-note the more westerly track [Re: SirCane]
      #19059 - Wed Aug 11 2004 08:25 PM

Actually looks like an afternoon CDO is getting stronger on the visible (haven't looked at Dvorak or colorized yet). It might be the shadows from the afternoon sun, but it doesn't look better than it has. Again, I've got to wonder if my ideas were way too far west if it keeps heading between 1:30 and 3 o'clock (for those of you who don't like degree headings).

As far as me, I'll survive. I got my one little taste of rain and now it's clouding up again as the storm pulls off to the SE of me. If any of the big analogs are in play, they're will be plenty more for everyone.

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Charley... [Re: Miami Chris]
      #19060 - Wed Aug 11 2004 08:32 PM

Guys, I am doing VERY frequent updates now on the air, so I am time limited...and I am not doing very much Charley analysis..you guys know a lot more about it than I do.

Sorry, but I just am not focused enough on Charley to comment intelligently.

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Re: Charley... [Re: wxman007]
      #19061 - Wed Aug 11 2004 08:34 PM

Makes sense. Stay safe over there.

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Re: Most recent models-note the more westerly track [Re: Steve]
      #19062 - Wed Aug 11 2004 08:37 PM

Seems to me that both are losing a bit of symetry. Charley seems to be having a little interaction with Jamaica. Maybe elongating a bit on the northwest side as a precursor to a turn.

Bonnie looks to be getting a little disrupted on the edges by the trough. Center still look about the same though. I really don't see Bonnie getting much past 75mph, if she even gets there.


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Re: Charley... [Re: wxman007]
      #19063 - Wed Aug 11 2004 08:38 PM

Good luck, JK. Know you have a pretty tiring and busy day and night ahead of you.

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Bonnie's ETA [Re: Rasvar]
      #19065 - Wed Aug 11 2004 08:44 PM

Anyone know when she's scheduled to make landfall? I got approx. 7:00 am from accuwx, but I'm not sure how old that estimate was.

BTW, Bonnie still a TS at 5:00pm

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Re: Charley... [Re: Rasvar]
      #19066 - Wed Aug 11 2004 08:45 PM

Charley remains a 65kt hurricane, but is now forecast to reach 90kts before going ashore in Florida. The discussion says that the crossing of Cuba is not likely to disrupt strengthening much. Good luck to anyone in the path of Charley, and of course Bonnie.

Edited by James88 (Wed Aug 11 2004 08:45 PM)


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      #19067 - Wed Aug 11 2004 08:49 PM

Still wishing someone would post his thoughts. The forecast was not shifted west as I anticipated. I guess I should bow to the experts. Good luck to those of you in Florida the next few days.

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Re: Joe B [Re: jth]
      #19068 - Wed Aug 11 2004 09:00 PM

Been checking on and off all day, and he finally updated his posts:

Bonnie pressures have not fallen but the storm is tight and I think this system is going to have hurricane intensity upon landfall. Its east northeast to northeast acceleration is right in tandem with the so called "shear" and its yet another case where what we have to worry about is the idea that it is moving in a way that it is in the upward motion side of the strong jet to the north, and this leads to intensification.

I am already reading the poo-pooing of things by residents in the way of Charley in Florida. My advice, if you are told to, get out with all haste. There is a chance that Charley is simply taking the path that will mean the least fight with land possible before hitting the states. The slowing started yesterday as it didnt just suddenly go from 26 mph to 16 mph, and that being said the slowing and turning northwest could mean an explosive period of deepening is getting ready to start.

He didn't mention CAT strength for Charley, but earlier opined it could reach a CAT III.

Not really too much of an update, but he did mention the summer patters are like those of 1960, 1969 and 1985. Let's hope not...

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Re: Joe B [Re: LI Phil]
      #19069 - Wed Aug 11 2004 09:04 PM

So he is now buying the FL landfall of Charley??? Yesterday he was saying west gulf. That solves it. Florida it is.

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Re: Most recent models-note the more westerly track [Re: wxman007]
      #19070 - Wed Aug 11 2004 09:05 PM

Should I cancel my reservations for Islamorada this Saturday?

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Re: Joe B [Re: jth]
      #19071 - Wed Aug 11 2004 09:06 PM

jth

If you go back to the previous thread, I posted JBs morning thoughts, somewhere between 10 & 11 am, if you're interested.

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Re: Joe B [Re: LI Phil]
      #19072 - Wed Aug 11 2004 09:11 PM

Went back and looked, there were no Joe B posts during the last thread. Maybe I missed it, but I don't think so. What was the jist of it?

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here's my thoughts [Re: jth]
      #19073 - Wed Aug 11 2004 09:13 PM

ill say bonnie makes cat 1 before landfall.. think she really wants to. Then again I said that she was going to make it right before she died the last time... but i do think she's trying to make hurricane status

i think all of joe bastardi's family is here trying to get his gulf storm going to texas


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Re: Joe B [Re: jth]
      #19074 - Wed Aug 11 2004 09:16 PM

Joe's new post was within the last twenty or so minutes.

Islamorada on Saturday? If you can get there, it should be fine as of now. Might want to see how things look tomorrow. I really think it will not be heavily affected and Charley will be well out of the area on Saturday. More a question of evacuation states at that point.

Charley seems very well behaved and very close to forecast track. Models really are not moving around a whole lot. No reall immediate need to nudge left yet. Too many people down in SW Florida would ignore it if they moved the track tonight. Best to at least wait a bit. Easier to react when moving the track to the left then trying to move it to the right with less time.


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Re: Joe B [Re: LI Phil]
      #19075 - Wed Aug 11 2004 09:28 PM

jth,

That is bizarre, but the post is gone! Maybe Mike nuked it, but I only grabbed two-three sentences from his entire post. Here's what I put up:

>>>I hold with the idea of a sub 990 mb hurricane making landfall tomorrow on the coast and now I can make it in between Apalachicola and Pensacola (Bonnie)

>>>For now, it looks to me that we have a strong category 2 and perhaps a 3 making landfall Friday, but the exact spot is tough to call. The area between Cedar Key and Apalachicola is the Gulf equal to the no mans land around Jacksonville for the Atlantic. (Charley)

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