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jr928
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Re: Hurricane Watches up For Southeast Louisiana [Re: hurricane expert]
      #50831 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:00 PM

great sats and visibles

http://www.geocities.com/tropicwx/


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Hugh
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Re: Hurricane Watches up For Southeast Louisiana [Re: jr928]
      #50832 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:02 PM

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can't say that I disagree hugh. I would say my very untrained eye is seeing the stronger storm tightening again and since it grew during eye wall repl it look more northward. but I'm an idiot when it comes to real weather so bear with me




Me too - but as I said I know what I have heard on TV from "weather guessers" if you will - and putting two and three together I get six and a potential turn SOON.

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Re: Hurricane Watches up For Southeast Louisiana [Re: Hugh]
      #50833 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:05 PM

Yeah, check out the explosion of convection on this IR SAT. The CDO has really expanded to the north and east over the last several hours. This looks like one massive storm - may be our 21st century Camille.


http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satellit...amp;duration=10

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Re: Hurricane Watches up For Southeast Louisiana [Re: hurricane expert]
      #50834 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:09 PM

I would like to know the same thing. Have you received a response for this posting? If so, would you please share it with me? Thanks!

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Re: Hurricane Watches up For Southeast Louisiana [Re: hurricane expert]
      #50835 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:11 PM

Well on wv sat images it looks like Katrina is reorganizing quite rapidly.

Looking at conditions on buoy 42003 as the hurricane moves past, south of it. This buoy is located NW of the storm, at 1.5N and 0.5W relative to the storm's current position (could someone work out how many miles away that is). Wave heights have averaged over 20 ft since early this morning and are currently approaching the 25 ft mark as windspeed has been increasing (up to around 40kts steady now). The waves will probably be even higher shortly, as the storm is directly S and the wind shifts to due E.

It looks like the only other buoy before landfall will be 42001, tomorrow, because 42041 is not in service anymore.

Edit - Oh WLOX has an excellent online hurricane center for resources for MS, and also tracking map that shows buoy locs and the shortcuts to the NOAA page for each.

http://www.wlox.com/

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Edited by Margie (Sat Aug 27 2005 08:29 PM)


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Hugh
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Re: Hurricane Watches up For Southeast Louisiana [Re: pryord1]
      #50836 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:19 PM

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I would like to know the same thing. Have you received a response for this posting? If so, would you please share it with me? Thanks!




No one has mentioned the pressure on that recon yet, and it is still not posted anywhere on NHC that I can find.

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Re: Hurricane Watches up For Southeast Louisiana [Re: Hugh]
      #50837 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:21 PM Attachment (186 downloads)

The eye is getting that cool "stadium Look" to it now....

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Hugh
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Re: Hurricane Watches up For Southeast Louisiana [Re: Ron Basso]
      #50838 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:22 PM

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Yeah, check out the explosion of convection on this IR SAT. The CDO has really expanded to the north and east over the last several hours. This looks like one massive storm - may be our 21st century Camille.





and it still has all day tomorrow at the very least to intensify even further. I suspect even if it makes landfall at N.O., we may get hurricane force winds in the Panhandle as huge as it is becoming. Not 140+, but 75 is possible in gusts maybe.

Edit to reply to Reaper:
I do not find anything "cool" about the stadium effect in a hurricane, personally!

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Edited by Hugh (Sat Aug 27 2005 08:23 PM)


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Re: Hurricane Watches up For Southeast Louisiana [Re: Hugh]
      #50839 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:23 PM

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Recon just reported a reading of 119 knot winds ... that's 137 mph...




I don't see the recon report at NHC - what was the pressure?





All i see was this....must of missed something

URNT12 KNHC 271909
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 27/18:56:30Z
B. 24 deg 28 min N
085 deg 21 min W
C. NA mb NA m
D. 55 kt
E. 47 deg 016 nm
F. 146 deg 098 kt
G. 049 deg 030 nm
H. EXTRAP 950 mb
I. 13 C/ 2438 m
J. 20 C/ 2438 m
K. 16 C/ NA
L. WEAK NW
M. C45
N. 12345/NA
O. 0.02 / 2 nm
P. AF306 WX12A Katrina01 OB 09
MAX FL WIND 98 KT NE QUAD 18:47:40 Z
SLP EXTRAP FROM 8000 FT
INNER EYE REMNANT 25% COVERAGE SW - S 5 NM FROM FIX POINT

i think this means ERC is about over

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Re: Hurricane Watches up For Southeast Louisiana [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #50840 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:26 PM

Quote:

Quote:

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Recon just reported a reading of 119 knot winds ... that's 137 mph...




I don't see the recon report at NHC - what was the pressure?





All i see was this....must of missed something

URNT12 KNHC 271909
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 27/18:56:30Z
B. 24 deg 28 min N
085 deg 21 min W
C. NA mb NA m
D. 55 kt
E. 47 deg 016 nm
F. 146 deg 098 kt
G. 049 deg 030 nm
H. EXTRAP 950 mb
I. 13 C/ 2438 m
J. 20 C/ 2438 m
K. 16 C/ NA
L. WEAK NW
M. C45
N. 12345/NA
O. 0.02 / 2 nm
P. AF306 WX12A Katrina01 OB 09
MAX FL WIND 98 KT NE QUAD 18:47:40 Z
SLP EXTRAP FROM 8000 FT
INNER EYE REMNANT 25% COVERAGE SW - S 5 NM FROM FIX POINT

i think this means ERC is about over




That does not mention anything about a 119 knot wind, though... which is the report I was asking about.

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Re: Hurricane Watches up For Southeast Louisiana [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #50841 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:26 PM

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H. EXTRAP 950 mb





Guess they didn't sample over the eye... wonder why it's extrapolated... Maybe it's extrapolated from flight level, but generally it doesn't say this.

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Edited by Terra (Sat Aug 27 2005 08:28 PM)


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JG
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Am I seeing this right on Key West Long Range Radar?? [Re: Margie]
      #50842 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:28 PM

http://radar.weather.gov/radar/loop/DS.p38cr/si.kbyx.shtml

Tell me that's just the short term part of the loop and nothing else. I hope that's just a wobble.....


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Re: Am I seeing this right on Key West Long Range Radar?? [Re: JG]
      #50843 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:30 PM

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http://radar.weather.gov/radar/loop/DS.p38cr/si.kbyx.shtml

Tell me that's just the short term part of the loop and nothing else. I hope that's just a wobble.....




That's just the short term part of the loop and nothing else.

Oh, you want the truth? Ok, it's just an artifact of Katrina being too far from the radar for a reliable track to be obtained.

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Re: Am I seeing this right on Key West Long Range Radar?? [Re: JG]
      #50844 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:31 PM

Thats just the remainder of the old eyewall being, I guess, filtered out. Doesn't look like it has any implications on the overall direction of the storm, though.

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Re: Am I seeing this right on Key West Long Range Radar?? [Re: JG]
      #50845 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:32 PM

It's been mentioned that due to the distance from the tower, that radar data is at an angle that makes motion unreliable.

Take anything you ascertain from it with a large helping of NaCl


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119Kt [Re: Hugh]
      #50846 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:34 PM

Hugh, I am unsure of the exact website where you can find that at, but the reading is in another website's forum.

http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=71478&start=400

Hit control f and then type in 119. It will take you to the correct post.


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Re: Am I seeing this right on Key West Long Range Radar?? [Re: JG]
      #50847 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:35 PM

Watching the streaming coverage of WWL-TV and they are saying that the contra-flow of the interstates at 5pm ET and watching the traffic cams from NoLa, it looks like that the folks there are getting out now. Major traffic delays it looks like......

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Re: 119Kt [Re: Big Red Machine]
      #50848 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:36 PM

URNT12 KNHC 272030
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 27/2009Z
B. 24 DEG 33 MIN N
85 DEG 23 MIN W
C. 700 MB 2634 M
D. N/A
E. N/A
F. 035 DEG 85 KT
G. 300 DEG 29 NM
H. 945 MB
I. 11 C/ 3062 M
J. 19 C/ 3066 M
K. 13 C/ NA
L. OPEN W
M. C08-50
N. 12345/7
O. 1/1 NM
P. NOAA3 1312A Katrina OB 23
MAX FL WIND 108 KTS NE QUAD 2015Z

ohhh......here we go! How big will she get?

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Re: 119Kt [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #50849 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:37 PM

Hmm I'm seeing a NW motion. Is that right? Mann

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Hugh
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Re: 119Kt [Re: Big Red Machine]
      #50850 - Sat Aug 27 2005 08:38 PM

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Hugh, I am unsure of the exact website where you can find that at, but the reading is in another website's forum.

http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=71478&start=400

Hit control f and then type in 119. It will take you to the correct post.




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ETA: Advisory is out. Hurricane Watch extended to the AL/FL border. Pressure down to 945 but winds remain 115. Have not read the Fcst/Discussion yet if it is even out.


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Edited by Hugh (Sat Aug 27 2005 08:40 PM)


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