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General Long Range Lounge
      #114884 - Sat Jun 15 2024 01:00 PM

This post covers areas that aren't well known yet, but are mentioned on models.

Starting off there's an area on 12Z GFS showing a depression or tropical storm making landfall near Jacksonville FL Thursday, area matches the weaker area shown on 0z euro (which is more toward Brunswick, GA)

Only thing likely here is some rain for Extreme Northeast FL and/or Georgia Coasts later this week.

12z euro shows this system closer to the Treasure coast of Florida thursday evening, entering the Gulf and making Landfall is eastern Louisiana friday night.


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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: MikeC]
      #114887 - Sat Jun 15 2024 07:54 PM

This area is now tagged on the outlook with a 20% chance for development.

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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: MikeC]
      #114919 - Wed Jun 26 2024 07:36 AM

The general pattern for the longer wave on the outook is the "Caribbean cruiser" system. Meaning it doesn't really recurve at all, and goes right into Central America. This was the pattern suggested by the long range climate models for the long term, so it'll be interesting to see if the 6Z GFS which shows exactly this or not. 0Z Euro and the Canadian GEM model also show it not leaving the Caribbean, but weaker to much weaker than the GFS. If so it's more likely not to get north of the Caribbean than it would. Those in the Leeward islands will want to keep up with this system though, any impacts there probably are around Monday.

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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: MikeC]
      #114920 - Wed Jun 26 2024 02:36 PM

Atlantic wave (40%) 12Z Euro has a cat 3 hitting cozumel in the long range (July 5th)

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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: MikeC]
      #114921 - Wed Jun 26 2024 04:13 PM

Now is invest 95L

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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: MikeC]
      #114973 - Tue Jul 09 2024 10:15 AM

After Beryl, not much going on model wise other than the Icon trying to hint at Something off the East Coast of Florida on Friday, but not really shown on any other model.

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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: MikeC]
      #114974 - Tue Jul 09 2024 05:00 PM

Well CMC And Euro (and ensembles) show it also now after 12Z, just weak and short lived though, heads up toward the SE North Carolina Coastline.

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      #114979 - Mon Jul 22 2024 06:41 PM

Not much, but a hint of activity in the first week of August on the long range Euro ensembles, coming slowly from a wave currently over Africa.

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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: MikeC]
      #114981 - Tue Jul 23 2024 06:46 PM

12z euro shows this over the bahams now later in the cycle, but not really any other models, except one member of the GFS ensemble. Again just something to potentially watch mid to late next week.

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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: MikeC]
      #114983 - Wed Jul 24 2024 05:19 PM

Euro is alone on this, but interesting for late next week


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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: MikeC]
      #114984 - Thu Jul 25 2024 07:20 AM

0Z Euro has much less activity in the ensembles and nothing really significant on the operational run. So chances seem to be a little less this morning, still worth watching.

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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: MikeC]
      #114985 - Fri Jul 26 2024 08:59 AM

0z Euro Ensembles are a bit more active today. GFS shows the system now, but it goes into the Gulf (late developer). Timelines, if anything were to get it near Florida it would likely be around next Saturday (August 3rd).


GFS and Canadian show the area now too, although GFS gets it into the Gulf near Louisiana as a TD/TS, Euro near Mobile, AL as a TS, Canadian near the Florida Pandhandle after crossing the Keys as a wave or TD. Although all the models it doesn't develop until late in the run.


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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: MikeC]
      #114986 - Fri Jul 26 2024 02:43 PM

This area now is on the outlook as a 20% area. AS the 12Z euro stretches it out and doesn't really develop it now, some of the ensembles still have it. Worth watching next week regardless.

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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: MikeC]
      #114987 - Fri Jul 26 2024 05:39 PM

Regardless of whether it develops, or is sacrificial in the current unfavorable conditions, the projected track steered by a persistent ridge of high pressure in our general direction will probably set the stage for what could be a congo-line of systems as August progresses.

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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: IsoFlame]
      #114994 - Mon Jul 29 2024 04:12 PM

More info about the Central Atlantic Area has moved here
https://flhurricane.com/cyclone/showflat.php?Number=114989&gonew=1#UNREAD


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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: MikeC]
      #115030 - Fri Aug 02 2024 06:30 PM

12z and now 18Z GFS show another wave forming in the Caribbean after PTC4.

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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: CFHC]
      #115066 - Thu Aug 08 2024 03:47 PM

Newer area now has a 40% chance to develop. Models are all east of the US now, but do go through the Caribbean islands, and some through the Bahamas.

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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: MikeC]
      #115097 - Thu Aug 29 2024 07:32 AM

Long range has picked up overnight, with all major models developing the system marked as a 20% area. The 6z GFS has a major hurricane landfall in Tampa Bay.

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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: MikeC]
      #115098 - Thu Aug 29 2024 03:00 PM

Initially, not much (if any) development in the central Atlantic, then potentially rapid when system enters the eastern Caribbean. Check out the following links illustrating the uncharacteristically rapid cooling in the equatorial Atlantic (could there be a teleconnection for why systems are not strengthening to the north in the MDR?):

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Re: General Long Range Lounge [Re: IsoFlame]
      #115099 - Fri Aug 30 2024 03:01 PM

My gut feeling is that we need to closely watch our backyard for short-notice, home-grown tropical cyclogenesis instead of the keying in on MDR long-track systems in the 2024 season's version of "weird". Last run of the GFS suggested that both the western Atlantic and the Gulf could spin up significant TC's rather quickly given the exceptionally ripe environment in early September.

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