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Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch
      #50227 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:04 PM

2:30am Update
Recon reports indicate that the pressure has fallen to 950mb with Hurricane Katrina. A corresponding increase in winds, from the 110mph at the 2a advisory to major hurricane status, is likely forthcoming. The storm is projected to pass near or over the Loop Current, traditionally a region over which intense storms often deepen, meaning the potential is there for the storm to ramp up even further over the next couple of days. The current projected path takes the storm near New Orleans at landfall as a category 4 hurricane, a certainly unnerving scenario for many along the coastline. Stay tuned for updates on the highly uncertain future track of Hurricane Katrina.

Original Update
The National Hurricane Center has shifted the track westward tonight, in response to a general movement of the storm and the models.

It's now forecast to landfall along the Alabama coastline near Mobile County. This is a fairly substantial shift west from the Prior advisory, and it enlarges the cone of error.

The northern Gulf coast will want to watch Katrina. The Hurricane Center mentions the possibility of more adjustments to the forecast track later.



(We and Skeetobite are looking for feedback on maps, let us know here)

More to come as we get more information.


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Edited by Clark (Sat Aug 27 2005 06:24 AM)


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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: MikeC]
      #50238 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:12 PM

This storm the further west it tracks before turning North is not good, in my opinion. The Gulf waters are very warm and the longer the storm is out there the stronger it will get. I saw one model showing a 30% chance of this hurricane becoming a Cat. 5. The area from New Orleans to the Florida Panhandle needs to start preparing and watching Katrina very closely.

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: MissouriHurricane2008]
      #50241 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:15 PM

This is unreal. The NHC can't seem to pinpoint the right spot which means you need to throw that line out the window and just follow the cone of uncertainty.

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: MissouriHurricane2008]
      #50243 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:19 PM

The 1700 advisory expects 148MPH winds.

There was no impact to speak of here on the Treasure Coast. I took a Red Cross team thru St Lucie County today, even spoke to the EM folks. No flooding, nothing.
We did have some good 50MPH wind blasts last nite (got a shrub down) and some very heavy, intense but short lived rain.

Now we wait for the next thing out there.....


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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: SirCane]
      #50244 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:20 PM

Following the cone is quite the prudent thing to do. Truth is, we still have no clue as to where this storm is going right now, just based solely off of the spread in the guidance and how it keeps changing around, so everyone needs to watch this one closely. Truthfully, after a long day, that's about all I can say about it right now.

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Clark]
      #50247 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:23 PM

Trust me, don't focus on a the line of "certainty", but the cone, we got slammed bad last night, after the storm that was supposed to cross the alley ended up coming down 95 into Dade County, the east side of the eye wall railed us for 6 hours....it looks like a war zone around Dade County, but nothing like Andrew...in terms of structural damage or roof damage

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Miami Beach, FLA USA]
      #50250 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:26 PM

The biggest problem from a Monday landfall may be that a lot of people will spend the weekend having too much fun and not paying attention to the warnings. Then Monday rolls around and its too late.

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Clark]
      #50251 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:26 PM

looking a radar/sat in last hour hr...i think Katrina is moving more west, maybe a jog to northwest now than south...not sure if it's just a jog or wobble... will see if the trend continues....of course its hard to tell...she is getting futher away from the radar....beam of radar is shooting higher up in storm....



also signs of an eye?

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: SirCane]
      #50252 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:31 PM

and on the NOAA site if you look at the Mariners 123 rule the entire state is in the cone.

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radar [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #50253 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:31 PM

go to the key west radar....it'll show up for at least a few more hours...I think....

however...there won't be any radars in the middle of the Gulf....just a lot of fish souffle'


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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #50254 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:31 PM

I really hate it when the NHC shifts the track that drastically because then it makes it harder to know for sure if it's correct. I also see what looks like a drift to the nw. Clark I was wondering if your thinking has changed with the system or not ?

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #50255 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:33 PM

I see what you are seeing. We'll have to see if this a wobble, or the start of a trend. For now, the 255 motion does not seem to be happening.

By the way, for radar, I use weathertap.com. It is about $70 per year, but is a great site for radars, lightning data, etc.


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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: TDW]
      #50257 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:36 PM

Navy has 90L at 25kts and pressure at 1009mb 10N-35W. Does anybody have any more updated info?

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: 00cj]
      #50258 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:36 PM

Hey guys,
Katrina remains impressive on both radar and satellite, but is still struggling to close her eyewall to the north. If this happens, expect her to really get going, and there are indications this could be happening now. Visible imagery also continues to show a CDO but no eye as yet. Has anyone noticed the really quite frightening thing with the current forecast track and intensity? If it plays out as currently forecast then Katrina will make landfall just to the west of Mobile bay. This means that Mobile Bay would be in the northeast quadrant of a landfalling major Hurricane piling up water from the ocean into the narrowing bay. A flooding nightmare!

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Clark]
      #50260 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:39 PM

if it follows the 5 PM NHC track, it will go more toward Mobile area. I am thinking the track will shift a little bit more east beforer making the second landfall. As for intensity, i think it could and just may get up to cat. 4 status. The water is so warm down there. Its like putting fuel on a fire.

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Sheeper]
      #50261 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:40 PM

Quote:

The 1700 advisory expects 148MPH winds.



No, it predicts 115kt (132mph) sustained winds. It said the superensemble model brings her up to 130kt (around 150mph) sustained winds before landfall.

Agreed that this was mentioned specifically because of its significance. However that wasn't a prediction.

You know what...130mph, 150mph; both are the same problem. Once you get above 130mph sustained, with higher gusts, does it really matter except for the record books. But let's be accurate about paraphrasing the NHC.

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Rich B]
      #50262 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:40 PM

what a nightmare is right! do you agree with such a dramatic shift west?

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: Rich B]
      #50263 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:42 PM

Sitting in dowtown Mobile a couple hundred yards from the water, I know storm to our west is bad news. Even Georges flooded us pretty good. There is simply no where for the water to go as it moves up Mobile Bay.

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Re: Katrina's Forecast Track Shifts West, Northern Gulf Needs to Watch [Re: weatherwatcher2]
      #50264 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:43 PM

Well with the forecast models gradually coming into better agreement it certainly has more weight to the forecast. I dont think we will see a second landfall in Florida from Katrina. I do think we will see her landfall near or to the west of the current forecast track. I dont see any eastward shift likely.

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I ain't skeered [Re: Ryan]
      #50265 - Fri Aug 26 2005 09:43 PM

yet

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