CFHC Talkback For News Story #117:
Newest Talkback: 04:03 AM 09-28 EDT

Hurricane Joyce and the Season
10:54 AM EDT - 27 September 2000

Joyce has been upgraded to a hurricane, and continues to zip on toward the west at a pretty good clip. Joyce will have potential to affect the Caribbean later on, so it must be watched. The MRF does have it missing the islands to the north as it goes on a loop, though. But that's conjecture.

I thought that it would be good to note how active this season really has been. Regardless of a lot of storms that just went "poof", we are already up to the "J" storm this year. Which is as far as we got entirely last year. And there's still two months left in Hurricane Season.

The peak is over, but the potential is not.

We will continue to watch the tropics...

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NRL Monterey Marine Meteorology Division Forecast Track of Active Systems (Good Forecast Track Graphic and Satellite Photos)
Map with nearly all model projected tracks plotted for Isaac. or Joyce From Michael Bryson.
Crown Weather Services Tropical Update (Includes Map with multiple forecast model tracks)
Snonut's Hurricane Reports
Satellite images at: [Visible] (visible -- Daytime Only) [Infrared] (infrared), and [Water Vapor] (water vapor)
Loops: Visible Loop - Infrared Loop - Water Vapor Loop
NASA GHCC Interactive Satellite images at:
[NAtl visible] (visible -- Daytime Only) [NAtl infrared] (infrared), and [NAtl water vapor] (water vapor)--Nasa source.
Ocean Surface Winds Derived from the SeaWinds Scatterometer (Experimental)
Tormenta.net Español -- Gran información sobre huracanes aquí.

Some Forecast models: (NGM, AVN, MRF, ECMWF, ETA)
DoD weather models (NOGAPS, AVN, MRF)
AVN, ECMWF, GFDL, NOGAPS, UKMET

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Dynagel (#27)
Posted by: Ramdy
Posted On 06:49PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (VSNXXNVRNQVT*)

If you really think about;; it well you get the idea
dont buy that story
NOAA Employees (#28)
Posted by: Colleen Location: Lakeland, Florida
Posted On 06:55PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (QURNQVSNRPUNTW*)

Yeah, you probably will read about it tomorrow.
One more thing on Dyna Gel (#29)
Posted by: Bruce Location: Palm Bay Florida
Posted On 06:59PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (QURNQVSNQYWNQWX*)

I for one am in favor of anything that would kill off a hurricane before it hit land. I enjoy tracking hurricanes, I did not enjoy hearing about 10,000 people being KILLED by hurricane Mitch!!! I think some people are just mad this year that a hurricane has not hit somewhere where thousands of people have lost their lives and property. I for one don't get off on other peoples losses!!
dyno....... (#30)
Posted by: GREG
Posted On 07:01PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (RPXNVQNRRWNQT*)

I think J.J. Walker invented Dyna-gel..........he was overheard on the set of Good Times saying it was Dynomiiiiiiite!!!!!!!
??? (#31)
Posted by: Darcy (http://www.dynagel.com )
Posted On 07:01PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (RPVNTXNQRSNYT*)

I don't know what to think now.
I am confused. I have never heard about this.
I will believe once Joyce dies for an unknown reasond, with perfect conditions like now.

D.

From NOAA site (#32)
Posted by: Gary (http://†) Location: Hernando Beach
Posted On 07:17PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (RTNQVTNVNRTV*)

As for the other ideas, there has been some experimental work in trying to develop a liquid that when placed over the ocean surface would prevent evaporation from occurring. If this worked in the tropical cyclone environment, it would probably have a detrimental effect on the intensity of the storm as it needs huge amounts of oceanic evaporation to continue to maintain its intensity (Simpson and Simpson 1966). However, finding a substance that would be able to stay together in the rough seas of a tropical cyclone proved to be the downfall of this idea.

Dynagel (#33)
Posted by: Mike C. (http://flhurricane.com) Location: Newport News, VA (Currently)
Posted On 07:17PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (RTNRNUSNVY*)

I went on an info hunt myself, and as far as I can tell, this is a rumor. None of the major newswires (AP, UPI, Reuters, AFP) have anything on it. And Matt Drudge respond to me with a big negative on it. Heck even Art Bell (or what was once Art Bell) doesn't have anything on it.

Folks familiar with the talk radio program hosted by Jim Phillips in east Central Florida would probably call it a "Hose".

It's actually a product developed by the Illuminati in the mount Weather complex west of Washington, DC. Dispersed by black helicopters (check out alt.conspiracy.black.helicopters) It was originally developed by Adam Weishaupt, the Austrian father of the Illuminati organization.

In all seriousness, however. Nothing against Steve and all, but it sounds like a hose to me. Would be a fun way to excuse the way this season has been, though.

As if... (#34)
Posted by: JJ
Posted On 07:30PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (QRYNQQUNRTQNQS*)

Dyna-Gel? Using it for storm weakening? Right. Let me hear it from all the wire services,
NOAA, the NHC/NWS, let's see the papers detailing how it works, and commentary from other meteorologists. Then we'll talk.
dynagel (#35)
Posted by: Randy
Posted On 07:32PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (VSNXXNVRNQVT*)

after some thought I`d have to say i`ts impossible
Helene, yes HELENE!!! (#36)
Posted by: Richard Byett (http://www.stormwarn2000.com) Location: Gloucester, England, UK
Posted On 07:34PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (RQRNQSYNTSNU*)

Well u folks in the states may have forgotten about last weeks Tropical Storm Helene, but she has left her mark here!
The remnants of Helene reached our shores today, with winds of upto 60 mph, and over 2 inches of rain. Almost all counites in England were issued Flood Watch, and many Rivers are on Flood Warning. Just wanted to post about an old storm still affecting ppl now!

Richard (#37)
Posted by: clyde w. Location: orlando
Posted On 07:46PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (TNQWNRUPNU*)

Richard,

How many inches of Dyna-Gel accumulated in the U.K.?...LOL

Sorry, couldn't resist. It's the only way to explain the lack of development of our storms this season ;)
Just to respond to Bruce and that's it (#38)
Posted by: Steve H.
Posted On 08:03PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (QURNQVSNRQSNQWY*)

No I don't take pleasure in other people's losses. the fact is that these storms do have a purpose, and we are upsetting an atmospheric balance by using chemical methods to dissipate them. One way or another the truth will be revealed. And by the way the stuff isn't spread over the water. And no Al Gore would not get any support from the environmentalists which is what he is blasting Bush about right now....environmental issues. I'll say no more on this.
meteosat (#39)
Posted by: mark
Posted On 08:29PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (RPYNRVNQQUNRSY*)

wow, look at meteosat photos, there are more distubances lined up in Africa,still to come.cant remember CAPE VERD season still being so active so late. joyce is similar to david 1979.and inez 1966, both major canes.
Cape Verde Season (#40)
Posted by: Mike C. (http://flhurricane.com) Location: Newport News, VA (Currently)
Posted On 08:33PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (RTNRNUSNVY*)

True, it's an odd late start to the Verde Season. Joyce could be the one to watch. I think there is a possibility that Joyce will most likely go north of the Caribbean. (Not necesarilly missing the NE Leewards) After that, it does have a chance to affect the US coastline.

As for the remnants of Helene, indeed it did cause quite a mess for Great Britain.
Storm Seeding (#41)
Posted by: Robert Location: West Palm Beach
Posted On 08:46PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (QURNQVSNRQSNWQ*)

The Dyno Gel stuff was invented by a man in Jupiter,FL. He was on the local WPB stations at the beginning of hurricane season and even went out in a plane with a TV news crew to show how it works. I don't know that they are actually using the stuff in this year's storms, but it does truely exist. You can contact WPEC, WPTV, or WPBF in WPB, at least one of them had the story on TV. The product is not a hoax.
Dynagel (#42)
Posted by: Bruce Location: Palm Bay Florida
Posted On 09:00PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (RPUNQXXNQYWNTT*)

DynaGel Incorporated

Plummer St. & Wentworth Ave.
Calumet City, Illinois 60409
708.891.8400
Fax 708.891.8432
1-888-DYNAGEL



Stock purchase.. (#43)
Posted by: Jim F. (http://flhurricane.com/jfaul/) Location: Ft. Lauderdale
Posted On 09:04PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (RPXNVQNQQTNQVT*)

anyone have a symbol for me..i am calling my broker first thing in the morning. We have the potential for two major hurricanes at the same time in the next few days..a wave coming off and carribean development. Demand for this stuff is going to be real high!!
Look out Florida (#44)
Posted by: Gary (http://†) Location: Hernando Beach
Posted On 09:15PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (RTNQVTNVNRTV*)

They are starting to run tests on 90L south of Jamaica they had a glitch.. but it is starting, look out Florida
A VERY IMPORTANT RETRACTION FOLKS (#45)
Posted by: Colleen Location: Lakeland, Florida
Posted On 09:19PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (RPUNQXXNQYYNQUR*)

Listen, this is important. The information we received was from someone who cracked another person's password on CompuServe today and gave us bogus information. This person was impersonating someone, and actually IM'd me with this information. I have now found out this this is bunk. Please accept my humble apology, and do not be too harsh on me or my other friend, Steve who received the same message. Thank you, Colleen
RETRACTION (#46)
Posted by: Steve H.
Posted On 09:21PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (VTNQRNQPUNQXV*)

I SHOULD KNOW BETTER TO CHECK MY SOURCES FIRST. THE PERSON WHO I RECEIVED THIS INFO FROM IS A RELIABLE SOURCE....HOWEVER...SOMEONE GOT HOLD OF HIS PASSWARD AND DUPED ME INTO BELIEVING THAT THIS INFO ON DYNA-GEL WAS FACT...SOMEONE IS HAVING A GOOD LAUGH AT MY EXPENSE...WE'RE TRYING TO NAIL DOWN THE IP ADDRESS NOW. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE FLACK I CAUSED TO FLY ON THIS SITE..I GUESS I HAVE BLIND FAITH IN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CHATTING ON THE SITE...THE SCAREY PART IS THAT THIS WAS AN INSTANT MESSAGE TO MY HOME. PLEASE EXCUSE THIS MORONIC MOVE...IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN! I WILL PUT MY TAIL BETWEEN MY LEGS AND GO HOME ..BAAAA! CHEERS!!
IT'S OK COLLEEN (#47)
Posted by: Gary (http://†) Location: Hernando Beach
Posted On 09:23PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (RTNQVTNVNRTV*)

Sometimes we need a controversy is good to get the blood flowing. We might need it soon
Colleen.... (#48)
Posted by: Frank (http://fjpell2@aol.com) Location: Biloxi MS
Posted On 09:24PM 27-Sep-2000 with id (QURNQVSNQYTNRQQ*)

Hey, and how do we know this is really Colleen
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