CFHC Talkback For News Story #59:
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Goes M Is Up
08:15 AM EDT - 23 July 2001

Yesterday the new GOES M satellite was launched, which is the last of that "generation" satellite, which will help track storms across the globe. Find out more on the GOES Web Site.

This weekend we had a little rain. Which is chipping away at our drought conditions, and actually start to get our lakes back up. This stalled front, though caused a low to develop west of us. But the conditions were (and still are not) favorible for development.

It didn't stop it from trying, however, and the west coast had a windy day and plenty of rain.

Spinout
I don't see it becoming anything.

Development Potential for Gulf Low
(forget it) 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 (sure thing)
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Otherwise, not much happening, and I'm still going for the no named storms in July goal.

NRL Monterey Marine Meteorology Division Forecast Track of Active Systems (Good Forecast Track Graphic and Satellite Photos)

NASA GHCC Interactive Satellite images at:
[NAtl visible] (visible -- Daytime Only) [NAtl infrared] (infrared), and [NAtl water vapor] (water vapor)--Nasa source.
Defiant Visible Infrared More...
Other commentary at: Mike Anderson's East Coast Tropical Weather Center - Accuweather's Joe Bastardi - SCOTTSVB's Hurricane Update Center - Jim Williams' Hurricane City - Gary Gray's Millennium Weather - Even More on our Links Page

Some Forecast models: (NGM, AVN, MRF, ECMWF, ETA)
DoD weather models (NOGAPS, AVN, MRF)
AVN, ECMWF, GFDL, NOGAPS, UKMET

- [jc]

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storm chasers or ? (#54)
Posted by: Gary B Location: Hernando Beach
Posted On 04:35PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (RTNQVTNVNYY*)

I was just outside and there is a jet flying around at low levels I can't see it but I would guess 5k or so. Jets don't fly in cloud banks so who is it. Hurricane hunters or the pixie dusters. Time is 4:28 est. If this falls apart we'll Know. Ps I live in hernando co. on the gulf and the tide is about two feet above normal and windy.
Shawn (#55)
Posted by: jimmy
Posted On 04:36PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (QVTNQQQNYSNXV*)

Yes. I have been watching it since you brought it to my attention. It looks to be much more broad than the other low, but it could easily spin up out of nowhere. The SST's are in the mid 80's and obviously the moisture is still there. keep an eye on that area.
Weather (#56)
Posted by: Colleen Location: Lakeland, FL
Posted On 04:47PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (QURNQVSNQYTNQXT*)

Well...Joe's right. The weather here in Tampa has calmed down somewhat, but we are now having rain with wind gusts (although not as strong as before). Could it be that maybe this system has just stopped moving and is repositioning itself? Could Gary be right and there are jets checking it out? Just in time for the 5:00 update? Who knows...boy, is this fun or what? ;-) Let's see what they say at the 4:50pm WC Storm Center.
don't stop now!! (#57)
Posted by: Shawn Location: houston,tx
Posted On 04:52PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (RPWNRQXNRSTNQXP*)

it looks like we have alot of people staying on top of everything in the gulf.let's not stop now;looks like things are just getting started up out there in the gulf.these next few days are going to be very interesting,to say the least.
TWC (#58)
Posted by: Nick Location: clearwater beach
Posted On 04:59PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (VTNQRNQPUNQUR*)

colleen...can you update what the weather channel says at 4:50. i'm at work and can't get cable...much appreciated. thank you
Um....I would except..... (#59)
Posted by: Colleen Location: Lakeland, FL
Posted On 05:04PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (QURNQVSNQYTNQXT*)

that I missed it. Sorry. Apparantly, the time on my computer is off by 10 minutes. Oops. Will have to change that right now. Sorry, Nick. However...I do know that the Tampa Bay NWS Discussion said at 2:35pm that the center of the low pressure area (be it non-tropical, sub-tropical or just plain tropical) was 50 to the NW of Clearwater Beach. And they weren't buying the models advice that it would be gone by tomorrow. For what that's worth. Not sure what they meant, but that's what they said.
weather channel update (#60)
Posted by: cajun
Posted On 05:07PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (QYXNWWNQQVNUX*)

Dr Lyons said the same thing he said on the earlier update. Tropical to the south nontropical to the north. Nonethe less should move north very slowly. Said nothing about central gulf.
up (#61)
Posted by: scottsvb (http://communities.msn.com/HURRICANEUPDATECENTER) Location: tampa
Posted On 05:25PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (QRNWWNQTSNRRV*)

I have meteorology degree at FSU. High
wind warnings are for winds SUSTAINED
over 30mph. Currently on in squalls
near the beachs have experienced that
but generally 15-25 mph. This system is
not a depression or should be.
wow (#62)
Posted by: leo
Posted On 05:32PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (VTNQRNQPUNQUR*)

hey scott if you are so good why aren't you working for the NHC
n/a (#63)
Posted by: scottsvb (http://communities.msn.com/HURRICANEUPDATECENTER) Location: tampa
Posted On 05:35PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (QRNWWNQTSNRRV*)

I applied, didnt get in.not enough experience
yet.
Scott (#64)
Posted by: Colleen Location: Lakeland, FL
Posted On 05:42PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (RPUNQXXNQYUNQTX*)

Sorry, I forgot you had a degree in Meteorology. What year did you graduate? I had some friends that went there. Couldn't you try for an internship at NHC? Or even at the NWS in Ruskin?

jimmy (#65)
Posted by: Shawn Location: houston,tx
Posted On 05:43PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (RPWNRQXNRSUNUT*)

any new updates on the pressures in the central gulf?are they still falling?
High Wind Warning Definition (#66)
Posted by: ROBERT Location: WEST PALM BEACH, FL
Posted On 05:47PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (RPUNQXXNQYRNQXW*)

Actually by definition, A High Wind Warning is for sustained winds over 40 mph. A Wind Advisory is for sustained winds over 30 mph and/or frequent gusts of 46-57 mph.
It seems like it's dying (#67)
Posted by: Gary B Location: Hernando Beach
Posted On 06:19PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (RTNQVTNVNYY*)

I guess the gel works
nothing,again (#68)
Posted by: Shawn Location: houston,tx
Posted On 06:23PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (RPWNRQXNRSUNUT*)

looks like all the excitement is gone,again.does anyone else agree?
It's Raining Very Heavy Here Right Now.... (#69)
Posted by: Colleen Location: Lakeland, FL
Posted On 06:48PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (VTNQRNQPSNRR*)

as of this moment in time, it's raining very hard outside and the winds are once again blowing very hard.

BTW, Robert....thanks for the correct definition of warnings/advisories. Much appreciated.

Colleen :-)
anyone's opinion on this (#70)
Posted by: Shawn Location: houston,tx
Posted On 06:59PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (RQVNQRNRRRNQV*)

with the low around the florida coast now moving north it will break free from the low trying to form in the central gulf.that may be exactly what the one in the central gulf needs to be able to get its act together.it still looks like it is getting better organized by the minute.the system seems to be tightening up a bit.this may be the one to watch now.what do ya'll think?
2 Lows for Shawn (#71)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metairie, LA
Posted On 07:00PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (VSNQWNQWNWW*)

Dr. Lyons just drew in a possible second low about 175-200 miles S of the LA coast which he said "might form" but isn't an official closed low yet. He said T-storms are firing up around the (potential center) area of low pressure. I still see 36-48 hours of NE shear over the N-Central Gulf, so what could happen here is anyone's guess. The pressures were still falling around 3:00 when I checked the bouys, but I'm probably not going to have time to check again until after 8ish. This site has a decent link to bouys. Also, you can check wwltv.com, click weather, click marine weather and they have the interactive plots of all the NW gulf bouys (the ones that aren't failures/crash victims).

Steve
Colleen (#72)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metairie, LA
Posted On 07:04PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (VSNQWNQWNWW*)

You've got to love it. There's nothing like a modestly nasty tropical day to break up the summer heat. Allison's effects on us were pretty similar. I posted my 'blow by blow' on the "forum" but I guess I'm the only one who ever goes over there. I've got to admit to being a little envious!

Steve
Well.... (#73)
Posted by: Colleen Location: Lakeland, FL
Posted On 07:21PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (RPUNQXXNQYUNQYY*)

I guess it was a feeder band because it's stopped now. If you look at the sat pix, you could clearly see it as being a feeder. Also...another note on what Dr. Steve said. He mentioned the fact that Cedar Key is reporting sustained winds of 30mph with gusts as high as 44mph in the last HOUR. Watching the sat pix, you can easily pick out the center. It even looks more concentrated now than it did a few hours ago. And it does not look as though it has moved much. Also..the pressures in Cedar Key have fluctuated greatly. Although the last report was at 5pm. Tap, tap, tap goes my foot. *grins*
on the bubble (#74)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Aiken, SC
Posted On 07:23PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (RPTNQQVNQVNXR*)

it's pretty fuzzy to say whether 95L is a depression or not. doesnt have the classic tropical signature, but meets lots of the criteria. pressure around the system has been rising all afternoon and the wind field is becoming garbled around the low.. which is still there but looking no better organized this evening. it'll be on the shore pretty soon, gonna have to rally fast to become a named system. getting doubtful.
ride the roller coaster!!! (#75)
Posted by: Shawn Location: houston,tx
Posted On 07:35PM 23-Jul-2001 with id (RPWNRQXNRSTNRPP*)

what a day!!!up and down.the way it is looking,we might do it all over again.hope you guys are ready.hey,florida people,you all did a great job today reporting what you saw and the conditions you saw.if this thing in the central gulf does spin up,please keep your comments commin'.
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