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Season Getting Near
10:15 AM EDT - 16 April 2002 | One hundred twenty-five Comments | Read Comments | Last 20 Comments | Newest: 10:35 PM 04-28 EDT

Hurricane season getting closer. With 128 posts on the last news article, I just want to thank you all for keeping this site active during the off season. 9PM - 21-Apr Update:

Our new news system is undergoing preliminary testing for the new season.. I'm making improvements to it over the next several weeks. Please Check it out and let us know... Link to new news system. We will be switching over to this near the start of the Hurricane Season. - mc
- [jc]

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JC (#1)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 11:04AM 16-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)

I think we will have something form within the first week of June.In your opinion,when do you think we will see the first depression form?I also think the caribbean will be the best bet for the first one.q

Enjoy and same number (#2)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 11:49AM 16-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRTPNRRRNSR*)

There are 45 days until Atlantic hurricane season.

Utah is our 45th state!

HOW THE STATES GOT THEIR NAMES (#3)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 04:30PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (VTNQRNQPSNQVW*)

HAWAII probably comes from Hawaiki, or Owhyhee, the native Polynesians' word for "homeland."
ALASKA comes from alakshak,the Aleutian (Eskimo)word meaning "peninsula" or "land that is not an island."
ARIZONA comes from a Pima Indian word meaning "little spring place," or the Aztec word arizuma, meaning "silver-bearing."
NEW MEXICO was given its name by 16th-century Spaniards in Mexico.
UTAH comes from a Navajo word meaning "upper" or "higher up."

Let you know (#4)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 05:32PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNUS*)

Heavy rain in South Florida again! WOW!!

Rain here (#5)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 05:48PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNUS*)

It is still rain in South Florida NOW!!

Atlantic basin (#6)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:27PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNUS*)

When will we get first depression? I have no idea.
But I believe, 2002 Atlantic hurricane season will be break record !!!!

INGREDIENTS (#7)
Posted by: LONNY Location: HOLLYWOOD,FL
Posted On 07:03PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNRPT*)

It looks like all the ingredients will be together for a good Hurricane season. I just hope the season doesn't start in Aug-Sept. like the last few years. El Nino;who cares. I don't think it will be a big player this year because it will be weak to neutral. So lets all get ready and be prepared...

Re: Ingredients (#8)
Posted by: Kevin Location: Orlando, Florida
Posted On 07:34PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (QVXNQYQNYQNTV*)

I do believe, as Lonny said, we will se an active season with many potential U.S. landfalls. El Nino will be important, to how much development we see after September 10th. I believe the first part of the season will be fast and furious, unlike past years.

States (#9)
Posted by: JR
Posted On 08:02PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (VSNTYNQQTNQU*)

Virginia is for Lovers!!

States (#10)
Posted by: JR
Posted On 08:02PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (VSNTYNQQTNQU*)

Virginia is for Lovers!!

June, July and August (3 months) (#11)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:06PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNWS*)

We should see 4 hurricanes or MORE in Atlantic Ocean, Gulf of Mexico, Caribbean Sea from June 1 to August 31!!

Yes, That's right! (#12)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:08PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNWS*)

I agree with Lonny

I am weird !!!!! (#13)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:19PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNWS*)

I was born in Michigan.

Michigan became the 26th state!
Florida became the 27th state!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I laugh!!!!!! (#14)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:21PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNWS*)

I live in South Florida for 30 years!

I am weird!! (#15)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:37PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNWS*)

Because Florida is spanish word!!!

Michigan is weird!! (#16)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:45PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNWS*)

Michigan became the 26th state
Florida became the 27th state
Texas became the 28th state---> Shawn

"The Wizard of Oz" (#17)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 09:32PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNWS*)

Judy Garland died on my 3rd birhday!!! Judy Garland's daughter is italian!! hahaha!!

I am Judy Garland! (#18)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 09:55PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNWS*)

Bull died in his haunted house when Judy Garland was 4 years old!

Bull's Death certificate- http://www.borleyrectory.com/photos/harryphoto.htm
Bull's death certificate was real!!!!! hahahaha

Bull's photo and death certificate were real! (#19)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 10:32PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRTPNRRRNSR*)

Bull's death certificate- http://www.borleyrectory.com/documents/HFBdeath.htm

Bull's photo- http://www.borleyrectory.com/photos/harryphoto.htm

Landfalls? (#20)
Posted by: Lonny Location: Hollywood,fl
Posted On 10:43PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (RPTNSPNXYNQUX*)

If the pattern stays as is. There will be a better chance for land falling Hurricanes but who knows if it will stay the same on average. Everytime I take a trip to Pa. there is a heat wave around this time. Then they have a cool summer with many trofs. So record heat definitly does not mean a hot summer. Have to wait and see how the pattern sets up for the summer.

summer pattern (#21)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 11:57PM 16-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)

okay, its lemming like for me to go on what bastardi says all the time, but ive picked up on subtle hints that the summer ridge position will be east coast with a trough from the plains to lakes, and a rainy go of it there. the similarity in mind i have is to 1993, the year the mississippi flooded. really the east coast was 'open' much of that season, so if we were to have that pattern with more activity.. well, its all speculative. i expect fewer hurricanes than what we've had last few years, just expect to get more bang for the buck. some hits, just like ive thought last two years and seen nothing.

PALMS (#22)
Posted by: NO NAME
Posted On 06:49AM 17-Apr-2002 with id (VUNSUNVUNQPQ*)

Have you hugged a Teddy Bear palm today?

Elian Gonzalez is famous from Cuba! (#23)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 09:31AM 17-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRTPNRRRNSR*)

Elian Gonzalez was in South Florida. LOL !!!! I saw Elian Gonzalez's house in Miami many times!!

In South Florida (#24)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 09:46AM 17-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNUT*)

I know where Elian Gonzalez's house is LOL!!!!

Only coconut palm trees in South Florida! (#25)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 10:38AM 17-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNUT*)

Look at utmost cuban and spanish people in South Florida. hahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!

Spanish people and coconut palm trees in South Florida!!! (#26)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 10:41AM 17-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNUT*)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Waiting (#27)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 03:14PM 17-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)

I keep thinking that maybe I'll look at the sat. pictures and see something worth talking about.I keep hoping we will all be surprised and we will have something really early this year.Maybe in about 3-4 weeks things will start popping.q

What? (#28)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 05:17PM 17-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNTV*)

SAME NUMBER HERE

There are 44 days until Atlantic hurricane season

Wyoming is our 44th state!

Oh, No! hahahaha!!

Spinning??? (#29)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 06:04PM 17-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)

Is that a spin I see around 24n & 64w? Can someone check it out and see if it is true? If not than I'm just seeing things again.

2002 hurricane season (#30)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 07:44PM 17-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNUS*)

There will be more hurricanes in Atlantic basin than East Pacific basin?( near California)I think. Wait and see what happened!

Record here !!! (#31)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 07:55PM 17-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNUS*)

Year Hurricanes

1995- Atlantic beat East Pacific!!
1996- Atlantic beat East Pacific!!
1997- East Pacific beat Atlantic!!
1998- Atlantic beat East Pacific!!
1999- Atlantic beat East Pacific!!
2000- Atlantic beat East Pacific!!
2001- Atlantic beat East Pacific!!
2002- ??
I think, there will be more hurricanes in Atlantic ocean than East Pacific ocean (near California)this year??

I will win !!!!! You will see (#32)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 09:30AM 18-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNUY*)

Atlantic basin: We won't see 2 or 3 hurricanes this year!!!

reversal (#33)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 05:25PM 18-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)

let me correct something i said earlier. i misread bastardi's article to mean that spring ridge positions can indicate summer ridge positions.. its actually that spring ridges can telegraph into summer troughs and spring troughs into summer ridges. so that would have the opposite effect.. obviously didnt get that right. tough for me. so if the spring pattern equates to an opposite summer pattern, we'll have another year of east coast trough. we'll see.
i've still got a hunch this summer will be like 1993 pattern wise.

ENSO (#34)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 06:03PM 18-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)

el nino sure isnt developing in a hurry. a band of negative ssts has popped up on the equator again. wonder if el nino will fail and we get another neutral late summer/early fall.

SSTs (#35)
Posted by: Ed Dunham Location: Melbourne, FL
Posted On 07:51PM 18-Apr-2002 with id (VSNQVRNRRVNQVQ*)

HF - might want to check this one out - its recent data.
http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/toga-tao/gif/daily/sst_wind_anom_5day.gif
ED

Did you know? (#36)
Posted by: Bruce Location: Palm Bay, Fla
Posted On 08:22PM 18-Apr-2002 with id (VUNSUNVUNQPQ*)

The Betel Nut Palm Tree: Chewing on this Palm tree seeds is commonly indulged in after dinner. The mass is worked in the mouth without swallowing; the process stimulates a copious flow of saliva which is continuously expectorated. Although it has been compared with chewing tobacco, betel nuts do not contain the harmful ingredients of tobacco. In fact, betel nut chewing may have some medicinal value, such as counteracting overacidity and producing a mild stimulation and feeling of well being.

What? (#37)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:45AM 19-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNQYWNQYT*)

SAME NUMBER HERE

There are 6 weeks until Atlantic hurricane season!

Massachusetts is our 6th state!! LOL

YOU MISSED OTHER STATES. HAHAHAHA!!! :-(

East of Florida (#38)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 05:27PM 19-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)

I don't know what is east of Florida but there is some sort of spin it appears.The only problem is that it is too early,water temps are too cool,and it will move to the east it looks like.Oh,well;maybe next time.q

EPAC IS COOLING by OURAGAN (#39)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 09:44PM 19-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNQYWNQXW*)

PACIFIC IS COOLING ALONG THE EQUATOR BETWEEN 90 AND 120. IS EL NINO WILL FORM? I DON'T THINK SO.

http://www.gopbi.com/HyperNews/hn/get.cgi/weather/index/forums/forum-2436/16857.html?SITE=cim.gopbi&message=1

CFHC (#40)
Posted by: robert
Posted On 10:25PM 19-Apr-2002 with id (VWNSTNRPWNQRX*)

John is a virus

CFHC (#41)
Posted by: robert
Posted On 10:27PM 19-Apr-2002 with id (VWNSTNRPWNQRX*)

I do belive that cfhc may be infected with some sort of incription format that posts that john crap evry day for ever untill it takes over the computer!

Those it may concern... (#42)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 11:24PM 19-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)

I've been a little confused with the John stuff myself.I didn't know if I missed some inside stuff while I was away during the winter.I've just been ignoring it.Please let me in on what is going on.

Shawn (#43)
Posted by: Steve H.
Posted On 11:42PM 19-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNXS*)

Steady as you go. If I find posts annoying I just ignore them. There should be enough tropical weather to talk about soon enough.....Cheers!!

Your stink !!!! (#44)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 12:23AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRTPNRRRNSR*)

Robert is retarded and virus both!!! YES, Shawn have a problem too!!!!

Your stink!!! (#45)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 12:25AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRTPNRRRNSR*)

Robert is retarded!!! Yes, Shawn have a problem!!

Shawn's predicitons for 2002 season (#46)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 12:36AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRTPNRRRNSR*)

I know you will lost!!! just wait and see

Shawn's predicition (#47)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 12:42AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRTPNRRRNSR*)

If shawn lost then Robert is a virus!!!!

2002 Atlantic hurricane season (#48)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 12:50AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRTPNRRRNSR*)

Paloma will be the last storm of the season this year! Don't forget about my name! HAHAHAHAHA

retared posts (#49)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 01:34AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)

he are judy garland, he paloma. he no conjugate verb or use correct tense!! he posting all time no make sense. haunted house, 13 children, coconut palms, titanic, italians and cubans, no el nino, 4 or more hurricanes every year!!! you lost when will we see 2 or 3 hurricanes!! you all lost i right we see 10!! the states in order and so forth. all of this is just useless, but does he really do anything more than annoy? oh great cornelius brothers who run the site, never boot john. who will we make fun of besides the wave mongers and cat 5 hometown predictors without this inarticulate disturbed guy posting 8 times every day? the others only post half the year.

anyway, he's right about the streak of cool sst anomalies that popped west of the galapagos (if nothing else of relevance). have to see if that hangs on.. we had spring el nino signs in 2001 that failed.. this year the signs are stronger but still havent quite gotten off the runway.

Atlantic basin:16 tropical storms this year, If i am right (#50)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 02:07AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRTPNRRRNSR*)

your lost!!!!!

I laugh at you (#51)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 02:11AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRTPNRRRNSR*)

HankFrank, Your nothing !!!!!!!

Italian people ??? (#52)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 02:19AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRTPNRRRNSR*)

Because my birthday is the first day of summer! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

italian: bULL IN ENGLAND (#53)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 02:30AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRTPNRRRNSR*)

Italian mantelpiece in Dinig room, showing marble busts recalling the monastic site on which the Rectory is said to stand. "The Most Haunted House in England" pages 110.

My birthday is the first day of summer! (#54)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 02:45AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRTPNRRRNSR*)

Robert is a virus!!!! LOL !!!!!

HF... (#55)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metairie, LA
Posted On 08:35AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (VWNRTYNUUNQSY*)

That was the funniest post of the pre-season.
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I rule I suck I am an application I am a virus I hate Madonna I love Kate Bush i are weasel i am baboon i am Paloma Melanoma

esteban

Don't forget my predicition!! (#56)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:45AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNRTPNRRRNSR*)

Atlantic basin: My predicition- 4 tropical storms, 12 hurricanes and 6 major hurricanes this year! HAHAHAHAHA!!! I know I will win!!!

This web site (#57)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 10:11AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)

I know that the season hasn't started yet so everyone is trying to find something to talk about,but I really can't believe that this site has fallen into the trap of being just another junky "chatroom".We have very well educated people,not including myself,that post on this site.CFHC is one of the best,if not the best,sites around;not just hurricanes but period.I know it is nice to talk about different subjects other than the tropics,especially before June 1,but I know we are ALL about MUCH MORE than what these posts are showing.Please,let's get this site back to what it is capable of being;the BEST SITE FOR HURRICANES,DISCUSSIONS,AND EVERYTHING ELSE!!!!GOD BLESS ALL!!!!

Bull died when Judy Garland was almost 5 years old (#58)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 11:12AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNTX*)

If Judy Garland talked to Bull. The end !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RE; This Web Site (#59)
Posted by: Ed Dunham Location: Melbourne, FL
Posted On 11:21AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (VSNQVRNRRVNQVW*)

Good point Shawn! Not much sense in visiting the site if its not going to have the discussions that you are looking for. A little humor is certainly okay, but this stuff is no longer funny. I'd much rather see the site stick to the business of the tropics and the outlook for the upcoming season, but thats just my viewpoint. Too many off-topic contributions just clutter up the real reason why we pay this good site a visit.
ED

i are laugh at me too! (#60)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 11:56AM 20-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)

for i are lost!! i are retared! i are nothing!! gee shawn dont fret over the jibberish on the site. would you rather discuss dyna-gel with conspiracy theorists while or have to explain otherwise to someone convinced that a tropical disturbance is the next category 5 coming to hit their city? or rather, would you like to discuss to no end the future of some small nonconvective swirl this time of year with no chance of development? we have hurricane season for six months, and we have paloma's futile attempts at posting something we care about for the other six. so peace out and yes of course God bless.

HankFrank (#61)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 12:09PM 20-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)

Good one!!!!I got another one for you.How about what appears to be a circulation right on top of the "hurricane killer" in the caribbean?

Site (#62)
Posted by: JC
Posted On 03:28PM 20-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRVNTTNQUR*)

The new system we are working on for the talkbacks for the season will be different from this one. It uses the backend of a much more robust forum system and will have all sorts of controls to keep things from going too crazy.

The look and format won't change much, but the behind the scenes backend will be much more robust. Ie, if something gets too off topic we can move it into a seperate off topic area without actually deleting it.

The system we wrote a couple years back just isn't built for the volume we are getting... and it's not even the season yet.

When the season comes we'll be a little more strict on what can stay on here. The off season can remain a reasonable free for all. It'll allow you to choose individually what you want to see also, so even then we'll have plenty of leeway.

- JC

2002 Atlantic hurricane season (#63)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:16PM 20-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNUX*)

12 more hurricanes to go!

Good morning in China right now! (#64)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:30PM 20-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNTV*)

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm

shawn, its all good (#65)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 02:18AM 21-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)

dude, all i see right now is streaked clouds and like 80kt worth of shear, with the low level clouds riding the easterlies below. typical scenario in april, and the reason chances anything will form this month are like 1/200. youve got better chances of riding a texas tornado to oz to visit judy garland.. or paloma. i would have also added getting a 5+ magnitude earthquake in upstate new york, just yesterday, but i guess hell does occasionally freeze over. anyhow, the eastpac can go active in about 3 more weeks, so things are getting closer. thats if anybody cares about the eastpac. one basin or another we'll probably get something within 60 days.
anyhow JC nice to hear youre going to make improvements. considered a moneyless lottery on who gets their predictions right the most, or a scoring record? that might make us all a lot more conservative in our forecast guesswork and discussion; if we were rated. could add a new element to the site. just a thought--user feedback.

"Judy Garland was a wonderful girl" (#66)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 12:31PM 21-Apr-2002 with id (VTNQRNQPTNTQ*)

Newspaper said ---> Denis, who was 80 pounds, 3-foot-11 and 47 years old when chosen to play the mayor who told Dorothy to follow Yellow Brick Road, died Thursday in the Maricopa Medical Center.

Judy Garland: "She was a wonderful girl," Denis said.

Denis died on my birthday too AGAIN! That's me!

two things (#67)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 01:05PM 21-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)

the sst cold pool that appeared west of the galapagos last week has gotten a bit larger. i'd have something useful to derive from this fact maybe if i understood enough about the nino 1.2 wind anomaly map that ed put up a few days ago in response to my first noticing this. throw me a line, ed...
also, more profound... the recent NE us heatwave has put ssts off the east coast several degrees above normal. cold shot coming down now might temper this. then again, warm here in the southeast will be less easy to displace.

--->Paloma (#68)
Posted by: --->Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 04:13PM 21-Apr-2002 with id (VTNQRNQPTNTV*)

2002 Atlantic hurricane season

Paloma will be the last storm of the season this year!

Re: Two Things (#69)
Posted by: Kevin Location: Orlando, Florida
Posted On 04:41PM 21-Apr-2002 with id (QVXNQYQNYQNRT*)

All interesting things you've pointed out...and I've been watching them all. This Nino 1.2 area has been troubling the development any possible El Nino's for a couple of years now...and we could have neutral conditions for the peak of this hurricane season, as HF mentioned in an earlier post. That could mean real trouble.

Atlantic basin: Paloma this year?? (#70)
Posted by: --->Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 04:45PM 21-Apr-2002 with id (VTNQRNQPTNTV*)

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

2002 Atlantic hurricane season: Paloma will be the last storm of the season! (#71)
Posted by: --->Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 05:44PM 21-Apr-2002 with id (VTNQRNQPTNTV*)

SAME NUMBER HERE

There are 5 weeks until hurricane season

Connecticut is our 5th state!

El Nino (#72)
Posted by: Ed Dunham Location: Melbourne, FL
Posted On 06:54PM 21-Apr-2002 with id (VSNQVRNRRVNQVV*)

HF & Kevin: Spent some of this wekend taking a close look at the changes in sst's over the past few months, and pacific sst anomalies are definately on the increase. Here is a good link that shows this trend:
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/index_frame.html
Notice the changes in sst anomalies off the northwest coast of South America. From -1.0 to +2.0 in 12 weeks. The anomalies are already at least +0.5 warmer than what had been projected about 6 months ago. While other factors do indeed influence the number of Atlantic basin storms in any given year, its also true that a moderate El Nino will keep these numbers down if the El Nino kicks in a few months before the season begins. It only takes an anomaly of +1.0 to 1.5 to do this. Given the current trend (which will probably influence the numbers for this season and next season as well) I'm starting to see numbers like 10/6/3 for this year - perhaps even 9/5/2, but I'll see how the trend looks in June before I'd drop my numbers down to 9. Wouldn't surprise me to see the EASTPAC season kick in rather soon. Also took a look at how storm totals have changed when the Pacific transitions to an El Nino event after year(s) of high activity in the Atlantic. The average decrease in total storm numbers (25 identified events since 1878) was -5.6. The most dramatic was 1916-17 which dropped from 14 to 3 storms. A weak El Nino seems to lower the storm total by 3 or 4; a moderate by 5 or 6 and a strong by 7 or more. Exceptions have occurred but they are rare - an El Nino event almost always means a decline in the numbers - often a significant decline, but thats a timing thing between the start of the ENSO event and the start of the Atlantic season. Can't see more than 10 storms this year and that assumes a much earlier start to the 2002 season.
Cheers,
ED

There is no dark red in East Pacific, I don't understand (#73)
Posted by: El nino
Posted On 07:44PM 21-Apr-2002 with id (VTNQRNQPTNTR*)

http://152.80.49.210/products/OTIS/otis_glbl_sstanomaly.gif

New News system in Testing (#74)
Posted by: MikeC (http://flhurricane.com/cyclone) Location: Florida, USA
Posted On 09:20PM 21-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRVNTTNQUR*)

I've been gone most of the weekend, but got enough of this working to have it go live with a test...

http://flhurricane.com/cyclone

Try it out, I'll be working some of the bugs out and polishing it over the next few weeks. I hope to have it completely done by the season.

There are bugs. Use the http://flhurricane.com/cyclone/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=suggestions Site suggestion board for problems.

This is a heavily modified (by me) forum system, which means there are likely new bugs. This is what I'll be converting over to fairly soon though. So let me know what you like/dislike etc. Remember it isn't complete!

Thanks,

- Mike C. CFHC

Ed has a Point (#75)
Posted by: Steve H.
Posted On 10:38PM 21-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNUX*)

The temps are coming up along the equator and the red is making a move towards the reds in the central Pacific. This is data trough April 10th, so we'll have hae to watch how it progresses. Cheers!!

new stuff (#76)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posted On 10:56PM 21-Apr-2002 with id (QRXNQXVNQRSNQYS*)

check out the new site format.

EL NINO OR NEUTRAL (#77)
Posted by: LONNY Location: HOLLYWOOD FL.
Posted On 08:08AM 22-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNQYWNRPS*)

I personally don't see a El Nino at this time according to NOAA latest SST page.I see a big increase in SST along the Gulf and North Atlantic areas but El Nino I don't think so.If El Nino is going to occur, I think it will be a slower process then is expected. I still don't think El Nino will be a factor this Hurricane season.

YES, RECORD HERE TOO!!! (#78)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 09:27AM 22-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNQUV*)

There were more hurricanes in the Atlantic basin than in the East Pacific basin from 1995 to 2002!

hahahahaha!!

There will be more hurricanes in Atlantic basin this year?? We shall see...

1995-2001 hurricane seasons (#79)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 09:53AM 22-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNQUV*)

1995-11 hurricanes in Atlantic!
1995- 7 hurricanes in East Pacific

1996- 9 hurricanes in Atlantic!
1996- 5 hurricanes in East Pacific

1998-10 hurricanes in Atlantic!
1998- 9 hurricanes in East Pacific

1999- 8 hurricanes in Atlantic!
1999- 6 hurricanes in East Pacific

2000- 8 hurricanes in Atlantic!
2000- 6 hurricanes in East Pacific

2001- 9 hurricanes in Atlantic!
2001- 8 hurricanes in East Pacific

Something different (#80)
Posted by: Mike C. (http://flhurricane.com) Location: Orlando, FL (Currently)
Posted On 11:53AM 22-Apr-2002 with id (VVNRPNQQVNRQS*)

Happened to catch a screenshot of Dick Cheney going by in a motorcade in my Orlando Webcam:

Two weeks is my goal to move the old news system off the main page.

In the Black Truck? (#81)
Posted by: Steve H. Location: palm bay, FL
Posted On 12:54PM 22-Apr-2002 with id (QUUNQPTNRSYNQV*)

That musta been him thrown' a beer out the window..LOL (empty). Mr. Cornelius, do we have to register to post on the new site

New site (#82)
Posted by: Mike C. (http://flhurricane.com) Location: Orlando, FL (Currently)
Posted On 04:05PM 22-Apr-2002 with id (VVNRPNQQVNRQS*)

You don't have to, but it saves the trouble of retyping info in every time, plus I'm adding a bunch of options to weather data later on that will neede that to save.

2002 Atlantic hurricane season. No depressions this year!!!!!! (#83)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:21PM 23-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYWNQUW*)

I believe there will be 16 tropical storms with NO DEPRESSIONS this year! Paloma will be the last storm of the season this year!

I like the... (#84)
Posted by: Kevin Location: State/city of confusion (Orlando, Florida)
Posted On 08:05PM 23-Apr-2002 with id (QVXNQYQNYQNQQ*)

new feedback feature. Makes the site a easier to naviagate. Also makes using it a little easier. What's even more intersting is the cooling along the equator, it seems to be warding off the warm area off of the SA coast. Latest ENSO forecast released today, and it certainly looks interesting. It only shows the warming becoming adequate to hinder a hurricane season by December. Obviously, if this forecast does indeed pan out, we will be in for an interesting season with quite a few landfalls. It also shows the El Nino beginning to weaken by March of 2003, where as in the last forecast in showed it strengthening. When I find the link, I'll post it. If you know the link, look at it. Either way, prepare. This season may (and probably will) have more landfalls than the past few years.

El Nino (#85)
Posted by: Bruce Location: Palm Bay, Fla
Posted On 08:36PM 23-Apr-2002 with id (VUNSUNVTNTY*)

I just checked out the ENSO forecast also. Colder water mowing North to the Equator from the South. Will be interesting to see if this continues during the next few months.

Bastardi Blurb... (#86)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metairie
Posted On 10:39AM 24-Apr-2002 with id (RPXNRTXNRSQNUX*)

>>I have started work on the hurricane forecast now and while I do not think the number is nearly as great as last year, my gut feeling is a quicker start, a quicker end and a much more random pattern than last years established look for a mid to late season east of the United States and late season western Caribbean as last year. But the time from now to the end of May is crucial in getting a handle on things, so for me as far as the landfall forecasts we make, now is the time to look.
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Caught that in today's meteorological discussion.

Steve

Earliest Altlantic Tropical Storm/ Hurricane (#87)
Posted by: Tom
Posted On 03:16PM 24-Apr-2002 with id (VUNXPNQPUNQPT*)

Would like to know what the record is for the earliest formation of a named tropical storm in the Atlantic Basin. Did it turn into a hurricane, and the location.

Thanx

Hurricane Season (#88)
Posted by: Colleen Location: Lakeland
Posted On 05:00PM 24-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYWNQXV*)

Well...I see this has been an interesting few days. I have not been watching the temperatures of the water or the other factors, but I will be soon enough.

Cheers to all!

Colleen

East Pacific basin: La nina (April 2002), NOAA said. (#89)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:09PM 24-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPQNWS*)

Yes, I remembered

Early Storms (#90)
Posted by: Ed Dunham Location: Melbourne, FL
Posted On 11:14PM 24-Apr-2002 with id (VSNQVRNRRVNQUV*)

Tom: Tropical cyclones have been documented in every month of the year. Some early examples include Subtropical Storm 1, Jan 18, 1978; Tropical Storm, Feb 2, 1952; Hurricane, March 6, 1908 (NE Caribbean).
Cheers,
ED

Atlantic hurricane season could begin January 1, 2003 or 2004 or 2005 or future?? WOW!! (#91)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 03:16AM 25-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNVX*)

1912- Titanic
1914- 0 hurricanes
1925- 1 hurricane
1982- 2 hurricanes
1994- 3 hurricanes
1997- 3 hurricanes AGAIN because El nino reduced number of hurricanes

We will see 4 hurricanes or more each year!

Increase in hurricanes expected!

Read this messages about hurricanes (#92)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 07:49AM 25-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNQXQ*)

http://www.gopbi.com/HyperNews/hn/get.cgi/weather/index/forums/forum-2436.html?SITE=cim.gopbi&show=-1

Paloma (#93)
Posted by: Colleen Location: Lakeland
Posted On 03:20PM 25-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNQYUNQYS*)

I know I shouldn't do this, but I'm gonna anyway.

Do you have a job? Are you of legal age to vote? Are you on drugs? What?

I think you're just plain crazy.

Palms (#94)
Posted by: Bruce Location: Palm Bay, Fla
Posted On 06:17PM 25-Apr-2002 with id (VUNSUNVTNTY*)

Have you hugged a Teddy Bear Palm today?

Oh (#95)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:26PM 25-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNQVV*)

I am back!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

Only two states!!! (#96)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:40PM 25-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNQVV*)

Coconut palm trees can grow in South Florida and Hawaii! Don't forget! Coconut palm trees can't grow in Palm Bay,Fl. hahahaha!!!

Don't forget, Look at Colleen (#97)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:46PM 25-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNQVV*)

Atlantic basin: Paloma will be the last storm of the season this year, If I am right? Bye bye colleen!!

Yes, Colleen have a problem!!! (#98)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:52PM 25-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNQVV*)

When I live in South Florida for 30 years!!! Colleen is retared!! because Colleen is jealous!!

Colleen??? (#99)
Posted by: John Location: South Florida
Posted On 07:25PM 25-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNQWR*)

I voted for Jeb Bush!! I did!

Colleen??? (#100)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:08PM 25-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNQVR*)

I live in South Florida for 30 years and I am fine today!

Collen is weird!! (#101)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:17PM 25-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNQVR*)

Some people in National Hurricane Center know me in Miami too. I am here, That's why

Miami, Florida (#102)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 08:33PM 25-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNQVR*)

I went to National Hurricane Center 5 times! I know where national hurricane center is, No problem!

Colleen rules... (#103)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metairie
Posted On 11:52PM 25-Apr-2002 with id (VWNRTYNUUNQUU*)

>>I went to National Hurricane Center 5 times! I know where national hurricane center is, No problem!

Did you have to wear a disguise or sneak in the back the second, third, fourth and fifth times?

Steve

Paloma (#104)
Posted by: Bruce Location: Palm Bay, Fla
Posted On 06:25AM 26-Apr-2002 with id (VUNSUNVTNTY*)

Coconut Palms do grow in Palm Bay, I have Three!!!HAHAHAHAHA. Palms are not trees! I voted for Jeb Bush also :( What a mistake!! Reno will replace Jed Bush :) !!! Colleen is right!!! Hug a Teddy Bear Palm today!!! You are the weakest Link, GOOD BYE!!!

Too Funny.... (#105)
Posted by: Colleen Location: Lakeland
Posted On 09:03AM 26-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNRPTNQWW*)

You guys are hilarious! ;-) However, I have no intention on keeping this Paloma or whoever he is going. I also can't stop him, either. So I will just ignore him.

Reno...btw...will NEVER replace Jeb Bush. Hate to tell you that, Bruce. ;-) Maybe someone else, but not Reno. Not as long as I'm alive...;-)

Well, I'm sure I will be getting more hysterical feedback from the nutcase.

Steve....ROFLMAO!!!! ;-) I rule, you drool. ;-) Did you have to wear a disguise

http://www.nlmoc.navy.mil/home1.html (#106)
Posted by: Gary Location: Hernando Beach Fl.
Posted On 09:38AM 26-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNTNTPNRRV*)

Does anybody know if the navy atlantic met site is down, or are we blocked from using it?

Gary (#107)
Posted by: Bruce Location: Palm Bay, Fla
Posted On 09:48AM 26-Apr-2002 with id (VUNSUNVTNTY*)

I am getting on it, if it is the site I think you are talking about. http://kauai.nrlmry.navy.mil/sat-bin/tc_home

Watching (#108)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 10:41AM 26-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)

I'm going to be watching the little flare up of storms out east of Florida today.I know nothing will come of it,but it is something to look at for right now.

Bruce (#109)
Posted by: Gary Location: Hernando Beach Fl.
Posted On 12:03PM 26-Apr-2002 with id (RPYNTNTTNQUP*)

Bruce that's the navel research lab, the site I'm referring to is the operational site with all weather forecasting for the north American fleet. Thanks

I think your nothing !!!!! (#110)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 05:29PM 26-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYWNQWS*)

I live in South Florida for 30 years! HAHAHAHAHA!!!

I am in South Florida (#111)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 05:39PM 26-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYWNQWS*)

I planted 17 coconut palm trees myself for more than 10 years ago!

Tampa, Orlando, and Palm bay in Central Florida (#112)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 05:53PM 26-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYWNQWS*)

I live near Key West than Tampa or Orlando! wow

Just My Opinion (#113)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 06:14PM 26-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)

I've already stated my opinion about all this "garbage" talk that has been going on.You know,if I didn't already know what this web site was all about I wouldn't bother to even come back to it after seeing this junk.I think about all of the hurricane lovers that may be visiting this site for the first time and are getting the impression it is just another one of those stupid chatrooms where people talk about meaningless junk.Whether it is hurricane season or not,there is no reason to degrade this site with useless,tiring,and boring nonsense.I don't want to judge anyone,so I will just urge those who are just looking to annoy people to please take your palm trees to a web site that is made for that stuff.Please let this site get back to being the best darn HURRICANE site anywhere.Sorry,John C. and Mike C.;I just hate to see this site sink to this level.

El nino?? (#114)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:15PM 26-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYWNQWS*)

I could tell you something on May 14, 2002

First INVEST in the EPAC!!! (#115)
Posted by: TropicalWxWatcher Location: New Orleans, Louisiana
Posted On 07:02PM 26-Apr-2002 with id (VVNQUWNVWNQWX*)

NRL has issued an INVEST on the low pressure system in the EPAC. I have been monitoring this low which has moved out of South America yesterday. The MRF and AVN suggests that this low could eventually develop into a TS while the conservative NGP is not picking up on the system very well. Currently, there is very little shear in the EPAC and the ssts are 80-83 degrees in the area. I will post another update later. BTW, this is no indication if whether or not we will see an active or below average Atlantic hurricane season.

eastpac invest (#116)
Posted by: HankFrank Location: Aiken SC
Posted On 12:31AM 27-Apr-2002 with id (RPTNQQVNQVNQUQ*)

hey tropwxwatcher, dont know about that invest. it's itcz embedded and at like 5N.. stuff usually cant get going that close to the equator. then again, good job spotting the thing out of season. will be cool and unprecedented if it does develop. alma 1990 was the earliest eastpac system i could find, formed on may 12th.
i drove home from fsu tuesday and didnt bother with cfhc for a few days.. and missed out on some great chances to make fun of john. looks like the rest of you took up the slack for me. dude is so weird.
more important things.. the developing el nino is looking the worse just lately. those cold pools that popped up earlier this month are still there, and the expanse of the warm ssts hasnt deepened or expanded. but the leaning is still towards el nino, though im starting to think very weak. 12-8-4 still sounds good to me. you hear that, no paloma! i know, i are nothing.

I laugh at you! (#117)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 06:29AM 27-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNUS*)

Atlantic basin: 2001 hurricane season (just last year)

First season with three hurricanes in November and highest November NTC of all time.

you want to buy hurricane flag?? (#118)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 07:09AM 27-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNUS*)

http://www.atwc.org/order.php

NOAA 2002 Storm Forecast...... (#119)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 07:34AM 27-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNUS*)

NOAA 2002 Storm Forecast...... Because the tropical Atlantic has fallen into a new era of intense hurricane activity, the upcoming season should be active, last well into October and pose a serious threat the United States, government scientists warned on Tuesday......

Post # 119 (#120)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 07:40AM 27-Apr-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYSNUS*)

Record here!!

1912- Titantic
1914- 0 hurricanes
1925- 1 hurricane
1982- 2 hurricanes
1994- 3 hurricanes
2002- NOAA 2002 Storm Forecast... Because the tropical Atlantic has fallen into a new era of intense hurricane activity, the upcoming season should be active, last well into October and...

Shawn (#121)
Posted by: John C (http://flhurricane.com) Location: Cocoa
Posted On 01:18AM 28-Apr-2002 with id (VUNSUNYXNQY*)

Shawn, This is why we are redoing the comment forum. The new forum will allow us to control it move comments and even allow all of you to control it to some degree. Bare with us it should be up soon or before the season starts...

John C. (#122)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 09:24AM 28-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)

Thank You,I'm glad to hear it.

Ripley's Believe It Or Not! (#123)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 07:01PM 28-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNQYWNQXT*)

Atlantic basin: Increase in hurricanes expected!

SILENT FILMS in 1912, 1914 and 1925 too (#124)
Posted by: Paloma Location: South Florida
Posted On 09:21PM 28-Apr-2002 with id (QURNQVSNQYWNQXV*)

Atlantic hurricane seasons on record!

1912- Titanic
1914- 0 hurricanes
1925- 1 hurricane

1982- 2 hurricanes
1994- 3 hurricanes
2002- 4 hurricanes or MORE!
We will see 4 hurricanes or MORE each year

Paloma,John, or whatever your name is (#125)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 10:35PM 28-Apr-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)

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