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Will this Be the Year?
10:23 PM EDT - 28 April 2002 | Fifty-seven Comments | Read Comments | Last 20 Comments
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Actually, for a major system the answer is probably not. But this does not forgoe the need for education and preperations on a possible major system. Once again I must state my distaste for general overhyping of hurricanes by media or elsewhere. It must be tempered with facts to balance it out.

Most of the time, storms will approach and turn away, most of the time what we do get will be relatively minor, but every once in a while (thankfully it is fairly rare) a major one, such as Andrew, does come by, and in these instances all of the preperation pays off. Educating yourself on what these storms can't do, and don't usually do is just as much important on what they can. People tend to focus on the destruction that these are capable of rather than what they usually do.

Hyping leads to apathy when something that really has the potential of causing havoc approaches. And once again this is more of a fear to me rather than the actual system itself. If a dangerous storm approached and most listened to the warnings, then the destruction and death would be kept to a minimum. On the other hand, if after a string of missed calls, people were apathetic or not watching and something did come along... even a lesser system (ie a cat 3 vs a 4) is capable of causing more widespread havoc then as far as people's lives are concerned.

Many people will ask, I'm going to visit Florida on such and such date... will a storm hit then? I tell them no, but always watch the weather, it could change. These events are rare usually. One strange year could have us seeing multiple bad storms, or we could go for a string of a decade or more without a massive one hitting. Our goal isn't to create hype, or tell you that this is THE YEAR. Our goal is to give you facts from various weather sources, and opinions from us and others, and let you decide.

We try to refrain from getting caught up "in the hype", but we won't downplay possibilities either. If you agree or disagree with what people are saying about a particular system, then this forum gives you a chance to state why. And in hopes, educate others and allow them the final decision. We always state to listed to the official sources first, but as a supplimental guide, you and I can help prepare everyone.

Thanks to all who have visited our site in the past 7 years. We are designing a new back end system to help manage the volume and the signal to noise ratio during the season. We have created off topic areas for those who talk and eventually go way off topic. Those who spam repeatedly the same message over and over will be removed, and everyone else can talk storms and learn, and have fun.

Thanks,

- [mac]




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Andrew a 5 (#31)
Posted by: robert
Posted On 11:11AM 06-May-2002 with id (VWNSTNQXTNQTP*)
this is a post off of another website that was poseted today.

Reading the paper today (Orlando Sentinal) it appears that the TPC is considering upgrading Andrew to a 5 based on data before the costly hurricane pounded the Homestead area. Not a bad move IMO....but they should also look at Floyd as he approached the Florida east coast while causing havoc in the Bahamas. Pressure was low enough to be classified as a 5 but the wind speed still was classified as a 4. If you are going to upgrade Andrew you also have to upgrade Floyd. If both systems are upgraded to 5 status, maybe it will drive the point home on how dangerous a hurricane can be and maybe stop this complancey that appears to be running ramped especially in Florida.....TSTRM(Paul)


Another Hot One! (#32)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 05:14PM 06-May-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
It's another scorcher here with no relief in site.I can't recall the last time I saw storm activity in the GOM.It sure has been quite a while ago,though.Sure hope things change pretty soon because this is boring!q


WAVES (#33)
Posted by: ROB H.
Posted On 11:14AM 07-May-2002 with id (VTNQPUNQWWNQWP*)
Three weak tropical waves have formed in atlantic,
is this a sign of things to come?



Yeah, it is... (#34)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metairie
Posted On 11:36AM 07-May-2002 with id (RPXNRTXNRSQNUX*)
But these are weak indeed. Here's an interesting blub from Bastardi today and his spring/summer opposite teleconnections:

>>Anyway, just lobbing a bomb here from way out, the continued evolution of the current pattern would stick a trof southwest from the lakes into the central plains, with a ridge from FLorida northeast toward the area northwest of Bermuda in the means, and a ridge over central and western Mexico to southwest of California. This would be accomplished by the continued backing of the major features that we see. Interestingly enough, the NWS summer probability scheme, adjusted for the decadal long warming that has been taking place, looks like its in agreement. Which means that its time for a big group hug and a chorus of Cumbaya.
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This tells me that he sees a strong Bermuda Ridge. Following up on that, depending on its ebbs and flows relative to where a storm is at any given time, the Gulf should be open for business throughout the 2002 Hurricane Season.

Yahoo!

Steve


Just a small Update (#35)
Posted by:
Mike C. (http://flhurricane.com) Location: Orlando, FL
Posted On 12:15PM 07-May-2002 with id (VVNRQNRSSNQPV*)
Due to work and other issues the planned upgrade of the news system will probably not occur until the start of the season. I did some work on it, but it still needs more tweaking.

The new news system is mainly to help folks navigate people's postings better and to have a more robust system for moderation and moving posts. (I don't like deleting posts and would rather move them if they are too off topic). And of course...

----

Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be--or to be indistinguishable from
--self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.
- Neal Stephenson


Maybe Soon? (#36)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 04:01PM 07-May-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
I was looking at the latest water vapor and noticed that there looks to be some moisture coming up from Mexico and trying to enter the BOC.If this does happen,maybe we can get some clouds to form and then some storms pop up.The SST's are certainly warm enough to support some build up.Does anyone else agree?q


Shawn (#37)
Posted by: Colleen Location: Lakeland
Posted On 04:32PM 07-May-2002 with id (RPUNQXXNQYRNQXQ*)
I did look at that...I was looking just west of 80 and it looks like a big blow up of storms; however, they look more like they are pushing to the west than anything else. Interesting though..because the EPAC season starts the 15th.

Colleen


TOO SOON (#38)
Posted by:
LONNY Location: HOLLYWOOD,FL.
Posted On 05:16PM 07-May-2002 with id (VTNQRNQPVNSS*)
You guys are barking at the moon. Come on every cloud/vapor. Be patient. Time will tell and I think this is going to be a banner year. In fact I think Grey will up his forecast by two the end of May. I might be going out on the limb but that's OK. Every factor that I looked at is positive or neutral for a banner year. Even the supposive El Nino that won't happen. QBO,SLP,SST,& the Azores High will be in place. Don't worry about the low SST off Africa I'm almost sure that was in place at the same time the last couple of years. It will change I grant you that. The EPAC will start probably late and since there is no El Nino we might beat them again this year. Later.....


Lonny (#39)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 05:22PM 07-May-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
I'm not saying there will be development;I'm just saying it would be nice to see some clouds or storms out there to at least have SOMETHING to look at.It has been at least 3 weeks since we have had any good rain here.Any kind of rain would be a welcome site right now.q


Agree Lonny ---Too Soon (#40)
Posted by: Steve H. Location: palm bay, FL
Posted On 06:24PM 07-May-2002 with id (QUUNQPTNRSYNQV*)
However, we could sure use some rain here in Florida. Actually, conditions prior to an active season are quite typical now. Cloud free GOM and Caribbean will mean good solar heating. Some tropical waves beginning to show up in the Atlantic. Water off African coast just a tad below normal....not unusual for early May. It has been cool there due to a fetch from the north the last coupla months, but this should change soon as jet moves north. Things are as they should be. Tropical activity is coming, and probably more than we'd like to see. Cheers!!


CHANGE (#41)
Posted by:
LONNY Location: HOLLYWOOD,FL
Posted On 06:51PM 07-May-2002 with id (VTNQRNQPRNQWW*)
It looks like you'll get your wish Steve H. Computer models are showing the High that has been over us for what seems like forever, moving North. This should allow for a more favorable climate for more afternoon type thunder storms, starting next week. Will have to wait and see if the models have some truth this year. At least till next week.


el nino etc (#42)
Posted by: HanKFranK Location: AiKeN, SC
Posted On 01:03AM 08-May-2002 with id (RPWNQTTNQWXNVQ*)
there are now more negative sst anomalies between south america and 150w now than warm ones, though the equatorial central and western pac are still running a little warm. just funny how the sst anomalies this year are shadowing what they did last year. the weather pattern up here isnt the same though, so the mystery as to how this year will play out deepens.
anyhow, the bastardi summer weather configuration-speculation would make for an interesting season. if for a change we get a great lakes/mississippi valley trough instead of an east coast one, anything in the atlantic or gulf becomes that much more dangerous.
also, the ideas about a slack season due to el nino are starting to evaporate. end of the month the good doctor will revise his season forecast, and my thinking now is that he puts it back where he had it in december.
later, all.


June 1st.... (#43)
Posted by:
Frank P Location: Biloxi, MS
Posted On 02:12PM 08-May-2002 with id (QRNQSNRTXNT*)
Basically doesn't mean all that much. Don't get your hopes up that very much will happen in the tropics prior to mid August. Climatologically speaking, June and July are relatively quiet tropical months and if we get one or two named storms we will be doing good (or bad, depends on your perspective). I'll be glad if we could just get an afternoon shower on the MS Gulf Coast, its approaching drought conditions over here.


Hey Frank P! (#44)
Posted by: Steve Location: Old Metairie
Posted On 02:23PM 08-May-2002 with id (RPXNRTXNRSQNUX*)
What's up bro? Same here in N.O. I think we actually have a 20% chance of rain tomorrow or Friday. Rain's supposed to be coming sometime mid-next week.

You're right about June 1st, but you gotta refresh my memory. Didn't someone of national note go on record predicting some early activity this year?

Steve


Frank P. and Steve! (#45)
Posted by: Shawn Location: Pearland,Tx
Posted On 02:41PM 08-May-2002 with id (RTNRTRNRSSNUS*)
I'm going to make a crazy prediction here but I think there will be some rain coming from the BOC area that may hit you all.I'm NOT saying any tropical development but at least some showers that will help cool things down.There is some moisture starting to move into the BOC now.I'm like ya'll are right now;I'll take any kinda rain!


Alicia? (#46)
Posted by: Rich Location: New Orleans
Posted On 03:12PM 08-May-2002 with id (QRNUNQNR*)
Could someone refresh my memory...wasn't it a hot and dry pattern along the Gulf Coast when Hurricane Alicia came ashore in SE Texas?



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