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DebbiePSL
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Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: Unregistered User]
      #53261 - Thu Sep 01 2005 12:09 PM

I heard a Senator talking on CNN, and he said it will go up for a couple of weeks and then things will straighten out. He also said price gouging would not be tolerated.

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Katie
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Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: AmateurJohn]
      #53263 - Thu Sep 01 2005 12:09 PM

John - I grew up in Lake Placid and my parents still live there. I was actually in Sebring last night meeting dad for dinner - that is one thing I do miss about a smaller town! P.S. I was down there on Saturday for the auction and in shock over how much that town is growing! And so fast! Before you know it you will have 4 traffic lights instead of three!

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Katie
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Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: DebbiePSL]
      #53267 - Thu Sep 01 2005 12:15 PM

won't be tolerated but how are they going to stop it??? And how will we know the difference between? Either way, we are getting it handed to us....in not a nice way.

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DebbiePSL
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Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: Katie]
      #53274 - Thu Sep 01 2005 12:36 PM

I heard the BP station that had there gas for 6.00 was going to be fined. That was in Georgia and the gov. was furious. Someone posted last night they are going to be fined 10,000 per occurance

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DebbiePSL
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Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: DebbiePSL]
      #53278 - Thu Sep 01 2005 12:39 PM

I used to work in the fuel business and we had to be very careful pricing our gas at that time, if you got involved in a pricing war and you sold your gas for less than you paid for it we got fined. nothing happened if we raised the price??? go figure

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dani
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Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: DebbiePSL]
      #53297 - Thu Sep 01 2005 01:47 PM

I'm from Pensacola, but live in Indiana. Several locations here have ran out of gas and our prices jumped 50 cents in one evening. Unleaded is at 3.18 and as high as 3.50 a gallon. My father in Miami reported that there were stories down there that Indianapolis had ran out of gas even before Katrina hit. I doubt the prices will go down any time soon, either.

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LizL
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Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: dani]
      #53308 - Thu Sep 01 2005 02:16 PM

When i drove to work last night, ( from St Cloud to Orlando) the back way through Boggy Creek rd seen 2 gas stations with lines for about a mile and all the other stations were totally out, I work for UPS and what will they do when they run out of gas, this is going to affect all industries i am afraid to think i may get laid off cause of this so called gas shortage,
On a lighter note www.local6.com has a article that our governor said there is no gas shortage in Florida... Mean while we have to wait n see espically since thi sis a holiday weekend.


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Domino
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Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: dani]
      #53311 - Thu Sep 01 2005 02:32 PM

I am currently in Manila but my family is reporting to me in Indianapolis they are paying $3.19/gallon for regular. The highest spotted has been $3.69/gallon for regular in the Indianapolis area. Crystal Flash stations are no longer selling to the public as they felt it was neccesary to only sell to their contracts - which were police/fire/ambulance services. I can't blame them for that.

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kerriann
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Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: Domino]
      #53376 - Thu Sep 01 2005 05:41 PM

It is affecting the northeast as well, I live in PA and threwout today gas prices went from 2.55 a gallon to 3.20 a gallon and still exspected to rise........

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WhiskyMich
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Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: Londovir]
      #53389 - Thu Sep 01 2005 08:19 PM

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This is what infuriates me the most right now. These people raising prices at gas right now should be held accountable by the law under the price gouging statutes. They should have to provide documentation of higher paid-for prices before they should legally be allowed to raise gas by a certain percentage increase.

I know, this is a myopic consumer view of the free market system, but it's one born out of frustration with the stranglehold the gas industry has on our lives. I'm watching countless images of devastation, loss, anguish, and I've yet to have my soul recover from the pain I feel watching it. And then I go out, to try and get some balance, and I come across gas stations profiting out of misery and panic, and it infuriates me to no end.




Lets put this in some persprective. When I was in high school in the fifties, I could drive into town and fill up the '51 Hudson at the Standard station for $0.259 a gallon for leaded regular compared to $2.899 today at Citgo for unleadeaded regular (plus Frank at Standard had full serve then). I could then run in and get a bottle of coke from his machine for six cents while Abdul at the Citgo station want $1.29 for a bottle of coke. Later, i could got the the Post offfice and send a first class letter for three cents (thirty-seven cents now and due to go up again). Following that, i could go to Knapp's Dairy Bar and get a cup of coffee (full service) for a dime and the waitress would refill it for nothing. Stabucks wants $1.80 for the cup of coffee and $0.53 for the refill and you stand in line both times.


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Mongo
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Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: DebbiePSL]
      #53443 - Thu Sep 01 2005 11:17 PM

Here's a story for you from Atlanta. My boss was telling me today that he was in line for gas yesterday and the price was posted on the sign at $3.19 for regular unleaded. After a 30-minute wait in line the people were finding out that the price listed on the pump was actually $7.99 a gallon. Egad. My boss said that the proprietor, a Middle-Eastern fellow (which certainly did not work in his favor with the particular flavor of crowd at the gas station), had to lock the doors and cover the windows to hide from the customers, many of whom had pulled guns. The man is lucky he is still alive.

Of course, he has now completely destroyed his own business as no one in their right mind would ever frequent that particular gas station again.

The highest price I've seen with my own eyes is $3.99, but that was down to $3.29 this evening.

Yep, we are getting gouged. Especially since the gas being sold by the gas stations was bought by them before the hurricane!

Brian
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I heard the BP station that had there gas for 6.00 was going to be fined. That was in Georgia and the gov. was furious. Someone posted last night they are going to be fined 10,000 per occurance




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MsWickedWitch
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Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: Mongo]
      #53604 - Fri Sep 02 2005 07:58 PM

Greetings..
Here in Central Illinois the ppg is currently 3.19 which jumped 40cents or more within hours on Wednesday.

What's the current situation with the airlines?

I'm heading to Tampa on Tuesday - any info for that area - including weather?

isolated to scattered t-storms. something tropical may be forming nearby or to the west... if models are to be believed. probably temps by day 85-90, night 75 or so. -HF

Edited by HanKFranK (Sun Sep 04 2005 12:53 AM)


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ronald
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Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: Anton Ross]
      #53664 - Sat Sep 03 2005 06:22 PM

Here in The Netherlands, in Europe we pay 9 dollars a gallon of regular.... We survive that too. We have been surviving it for many years now.

I must mention that the Dutch average salary here, after taxes, is well below the average in the US too.

Ronald


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Chesapeake Phil
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Loc: Betterton, MD
Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: ronald]
      #53674 - Sat Sep 03 2005 08:39 PM

Yes, and Europe has an exponentially better system of public transit than the United States, especially with regards to trains. Many major cities have local trains, but to get from one city to another by train in most of the country is a difficult, and often times impossible, task. Outside of the northeast corridor (say Boston to Washington, DC), Amtrak is barely a blip on the U.S. radar. In fact, it doesn't even serve a lot of major U.S. cities - and in the ones it does (again outside of the northeast coast), often times ONE route stops there once a day.

Rightly or wrongly, the United States is much more dependent on driving than Europe is. It's obvious we need to change that.


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robynsmom
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Loc: Ridge Manor Florida
Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: MsWickedWitch]
      #53678 - Sat Sep 03 2005 09:49 PM

Tampa's average ppg for regular is $3.19 at the moment. Not to many "outages" around though.

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Christine HAdministrator
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Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: mojorox]
      #53684 - Sat Sep 03 2005 10:31 PM

I just wanted to say that gas at the station by my house is $3.69/gallon. I got it at a place about 20 miles away today for $3.14/gallon while visiting my grandmother.

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BTfromAZ
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Loc: San Francisco/Green Valley, AZ
Re: Katrina Domino Effect [Re: MikeC]
      #53691 - Sun Sep 04 2005 12:13 AM

Gas on the west coast is about $2.99 for regular. I think those of you in the east will see some relief shortly. We have no lines here and no shortgae. I think the reason you do have shortages has, up until now, been mostly because the pipelines bringing gas from east Texas and Louisiana to you were out of commission due to no power. They are back in operation now and will be running closer and closer to normla capacity each day. There is still a reduction in refining capacity and it remains to be seen how much effect that will have. The problems with crude supply, so far, don't mean much because of releases from the Strategic Reserve.

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