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Cycloneye
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CV season keeps going and going 94L invest up
      #13751 - Thu Oct 16 2003 06:53 AM

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc_pages/tc_home.html

This is behind Nicholas and may develop into TD#20 and Oddette making this CV season one of the most active seasons on record.

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LI Phil
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Re: CV season keeps going and going 94L invest up
      #13752 - Thu Oct 16 2003 10:38 AM

Cycloneye--wow, another CV storm. Pretty amazing season so far, huh? Regarding Nicholas, all the models now forecast him to spin fish...but...looking at this WV imagry , it appears Nicholas will definitely miss the first trof, but should be grabbed up by the second one. With the latest invest, we may be looking at another long tracker. As someone else pointed out, we may indeed get to P & R (Peter & Rose..."Pete Rose"). Just in time for him to be considered for the HOF.

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LoisCane
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Re: CV season keeps going and going 94L invest up
      #13753 - Thu Oct 16 2003 12:12 PM

I'm still here. A little quiet. I don't know what to say.

Anyone else feel that way or is it just me?

Something about this season in so many ways reminds of 1996. It's October and there are storms out there in the Atlantic and I have to keep shaking myself sort of saying "Bobbi, it's still the hurricane season." But, it doesn't feel like it. Why? Don't know. Just doesn't.

Feel like I'm in a hazy world lost between watching waves that won't make it beyond a mere curiosity and waiting for the cold fronts that are slowly seeping through the sieve Miami puts up to try and protect itself from the weather from up north.

It's there. I go to Orcas and I grin, even giggle a drop but then what? So its there?

Will it do anything but swim off to sea?

Wondering what November will bring or will we be told to wait til next year and next year and next year?

It's like I can "feel" something happening but will it get caught up on a tropical breeze and simply slip away?

watching, not really waiting but im watching

bobbi

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Mary K.
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Re: CV season keeps going and going 94L invest up
      #13754 - Thu Oct 16 2003 01:08 PM

What if: The season never stops. What if the CV keeps spitting out storms from now until next June 1st. What if the Islands and the Keys and the NC Banks and the Gulf coastal regions keep getting hits and threats of hits from this time forward to next June.
What if the storms turn into Noreasters as they approach the Northern coasts with hurricane force winds and ice storms. And then next year: nothing. not a disturbed weather area to be found, no TDs no ts, no canes, nada, not a breeze or a stir..... Trick or treat?

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Kevin
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Why Not?
      #13755 - Thu Oct 16 2003 02:26 PM

Why not just have massive, 250 mph category 5 hurricanes all year around? Now there's a treat.

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HanKFranK
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Re: Why Not?
      #13756 - Thu Oct 16 2003 05:18 PM

what if this season slowly winds down, then the next one comes along just like normal? i mean, is there a chance that the global weather patterns of recent millenia will possibly continue another year? is that just unbelievable or what...
HF 2118z16october


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nicholas keeps company
      #13757 - Thu Oct 16 2003 05:43 PM

this late in the year active areas are supposed to be the caribbean and southwestern north atlantic.. oddly most everything of interest is in the eastern atlantic.
the disturbance east of nicholas, that a couple of days ago i called a non-development threat.. is clinging to some kind of surface circulation and popping convection.. as 94L. sheared and still unlikely to develop, but it's already done more than expected. that paired with nw-truding nicholas is backing up and absorbing all of the wave energy in the deep easterly flow.. nothing gets into the caribbean this way.. so whatever pattern triggered development may try to take place as troughs amplify in the eastern u.s. has less to work with.
nicholas is going to turn more northerly for a couple days.. then may keep going in said direction, or perhaps slow down under shear and turn westward in the shallower flow. either the storm heads into the north atlantic, or will try struggling westward next week.
southwest of nicholas an ITCZ disturbance is flaring and moving poleward.. if this persists it will perhaps take a shot at development too.. and complicate the nicholas situation.
off in the northeast atlantic a couple of lows have/are occluding.. one has degenerated into a nonconvective swirl, the other is still throwing convection. the latter is at a fairly high latitude... either is an unlikely but longshot possible for subtropical development.
most caribbean activity seems to be moving over to the pacific, feeding into a fairly active monsoon trough.. something may come out of this on the pacific side.. no trigger for an atlantic system is yet in place.
HF 2143z16october


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LI Phil
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Re: Why Not?
      #13758 - Thu Oct 16 2003 05:46 PM

HF - Great reply. Been sitting here all damn day trying to come up with something that was...appropriate. And you NAILED it. Nice.

Back to the weather. Seems like conditions are improving and we will have a minimal hurricane by sometime tomorrow. I'm still sticking with the official forecasts and models for Nicholas to be picked up by the second trof and to spin the fishes.

Earlier, Bobbi mentioned this year seemed like 1996.

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Re: CV season keeps going and going 94L invest up
      #13759 - Thu Oct 16 2003 08:44 PM

ROFL Mary, what are you growin in your garden? Hey would not be totally suprised about anything this season....

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Mary K.
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Re: CV season keeps going and going 94L invest up
      #13760 - Thu Oct 16 2003 09:00 PM

Well, I figured since Hurricane season does not USUALLY begin on April Fool's day, it would take a Halloween trick to make this season more interesting than it already has been. I am enjoying the barely concealed excitement on other website's. You can see people rooting for Nicholas to make it across the pond, even though they are saying he is fish bait.

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LoisCane
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Landfalling or docked into port in Mobile Bay :)
      #13761 - Fri Oct 17 2003 11:51 AM

Storm just sat there and spun.. first storm I remember NHC issuing press releases as to when they would start issuing advisories again when it made Atlantic OceanFall

wierd year... the wierdness persists too

great summer for writing online and playing, not much else to do

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LoisCane
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models
      #13762 - Fri Oct 17 2003 11:53 AM

http://www.wrel.com/modelmap.htm

looks like a bouquet of pretty flowers..
look fast, am sure they will change

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Re: models
      #13763 - Fri Oct 17 2003 01:20 PM

Thats what I like....a decisive model output!!

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LI Phil
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Evil Empire vs. The Fish
      #13764 - Fri Oct 17 2003 03:06 PM

Well, the models are still all over the place, but since Nicholas will probably only spin fish, it probably doesn't matter. He is forecast to become a Hurricane, probably not by the 5:00 (slight chance), but more likely by the 11:00. Nicholas will definitely spare the islands, but could threaten Bermuda (not likely).

Invest 94L looks crappy now. Maybe the CV season is finally over. Who knows, it's been a strange year so far. Next up: No-No Odette

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Edited by Ed Dunham (Fri Oct 17 2003 06:34 PM)


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Cycloneye
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Re: Evil Empire vs. The Fish
      #13765 - Fri Oct 17 2003 07:16 PM

Phil you said it right this has been a strange and I say weird season that started in april with ANA,in june TD#2 formed in the eastern atlantic and now Nicholas formed in mid october in the east atlantic so are we done after Nick is gone or we may see 1-2 more? Already 2003 is the 7th most active season in record so imagine if la nina were in the pacific how many more systems would haved formed besides the 14 already.

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Steve
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Re: Evil Empire vs. The Fish
      #13766 - Fri Oct 17 2003 10:33 PM

A little comedy courtesy of the MM5. I was over at S2K and saw my boy StormsFury had the animated loop for the 45k run. After watching the run, I thought it was cool enough to throw up over here for whomever missed it. Some talk around that Joe B was going to get his South Florida hit one way or another, though my subscription's up until June. Come to think of it, I still need a Florida hit too to verify (and my landfall forecast came out before his -muhahahahahaha).

Anyway, just throwing it out there for fun:

MM5 (PSU Model) 45k Animation

Steve

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Nicholas Update
      #13768 - Sat Oct 18 2003 10:46 AM

... has been posted in the Storm Forum.
Cheers,
ED


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