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Clark
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Re: Jeanne likely to hit Florida now! [Re: rule]
      #28079 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:21 PM

rule -- as a meteorologist and meteorology student, I totally agree with you. The entire meteorological community, from professionals to hobbiests, agrees with you.

The ratings don't agree with us, however. TWC's ratings are higher now with Storm Stories and other similar programming than they were before the programs even came along. The general public likes to see these things, while we don't -- particularly not every day, nor when storms are coming. But, money pays the bills...

It just couldn't hurt them to tone down the number of commercials a bit though, could it? Weather 00-07 of the hour, short local forecast 08-09, commercial 10-11, weekly planner 12-14, commercial 15-19, local forecast 19-20, special feature 20-24, commercial 24-28, local forecast 29-30. The same holds for the second half of the hour too. Go fig.

But, their coverage does leave a lot to be desired, in my opinion. And would it hurt them to change from that same graphic they've used all season long?

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rule
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Re: Nowcast [Re: Kent]
      #28080 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:24 PM

Ummm... what the heck is that? Since I didn't see a... "not submerged" picture...

Really. Some simplistic scale object would be apprectiated.

Edit: Looking at NOAA Mobile radar the eye is folding up...

Edited by rule (Wed Sep 15 2004 10:25 PM)


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Kent
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Re: Area Storm Links [Re: WXMAN RICHIE]
      #28081 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:24 PM

awesome links!

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Fletch
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Re: Landfall point [Re: Justin in Miami]
      #28082 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:24 PM

TWC just reported 10 tornados and 2 deaths already. Northern eyewall now 50 miles south of AL.

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Wxwatcher2
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Re: Jeanne likely to hit Florida now! [Re: rule]
      #28083 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:25 PM

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TWC drives me nuts anymore. 3000 commercials an hour, and 30 minute shows about famous weather happenings. Who cares!? That's what the Discovery channel is for! Gimme my weather 24/7, even if it's not interesting. Both CNN and TWC made it big when that's ALL they did, not like what they do now.

(gets off soapbox)

We resume your regularly scheduled hurricane...




Rule, you are exactly right. Those of us who remember when TWC started up, sure, they didn't have the amt of commercials they have now but also, the did a much better job of giving in depth weather information.
Now, it's just frustrating to watch them.
Tonight, CNN and FOX etc are doing a better job than TWC.
I think it shouldn't be that way.


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LI Phil
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TWC...my $.02 [Re: Clark]
      #28084 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:27 PM

What's even more annoying is they have 4 main reporters and several correspondents out in the field (granted not all at once) but why do they insist on showing reports from 2:00 pm? (unless it's Stephanie Abrahams morning report...sorry)

What, they can't at least go live every once in a while?

I happen to like storm stories and the other fluff, but only during the slow times...at least they'be bagged that the past several days.

Just my $.02

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Kent
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Re: Nowcast [Re: rule]
      #28085 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:27 PM

I swear it looks like water to me....

I must be losing it from staring at this screen for so long.
http://www.hurricanetrack.com/Wind/

anybody?


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Kdubs
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Big waves/ low pressure [Re: Kdubs]
      #28086 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:28 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Nope, not you, looks like the NDBC server is having problems. I can't get there either.

Bill




The NDBC is back up, but all the readings are about 2 hours old. Hopefully they will update soon. I'm curious as to what's going on at DPIA1, 42040, 42007, BURL1.




Latest info from NDBC -

DPAI1 at 0205GMT - 47kt sustained, 57kt gusts, pressure -.2
BURL1 at 0200GMT - 60kt sustained, 73kt gusts, pressure +.12

The latest readings are not including wave heights. Perhaps those devices have failed due to the enormous wave heights.

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Kent
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Re: Nowcast [Re: Kent]
      #28087 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:29 PM

gulp ...that is water! Look above the camera this is what the guy wrote:
Note: I have gone in and put a battery powered lantern inside the HLP vehicle so that we can at least see inside the Isuzu. If the water begins to fill it up- we should be able to see that. Also- the time on the web cam image is set to Central time.


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Clark
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Re: TWC...my $.02 [Re: LI Phil]
      #28088 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:31 PM

If the winds are too high - which I'm not sure they are yet, but perhaps they are moving people around or playing it safe with some of the bands coming around - they can't get their satellite dish on their live trucks up into the air to transmit anything back to Atlanta, live or not. That could be the case here...though I'm not sure why it would, as I don't think the winds have been that high yet. Probably just lack of anything else to show and lack of experts back in Atlanta to cover the storm. This is where John Hope is sorely missed.

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LI Phil
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Frank P. [Re: Kent]
      #28089 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:32 PM

Anyone besides myself a tad concerned we haven't heard from Frank P. in a while?

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rule
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Re: Nowcast [Re: Kent]
      #28090 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:32 PM

Oh well, it says at the top of the page that it's an Isuzu... and he expects it will fill up with water....

So it probably will fill up with water...

Yeah, but so what? If you park it in the GOM it will fill up with water? Why put that on the internet? Not very scientific to me..

Maybe I'm missing the whole point...

Edited by rule (Wed Sep 15 2004 10:34 PM)


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WXMAN RICHIE
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9 pm CDT [Re: Kdubs]
      #28091 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:32 PM

On Land:
Highest Sustained Winds 52 mph at Pensacola Beach FL
Highest Wind Gust 69 mph Dauphin Island AL
Lowest Pressure 29.24" Grand Bay AL

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clyde w.
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Re: TWC...my $.02 [Re: LI Phil]
      #28092 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:33 PM

One of our local station reporters was broadcasting live in Frances when a large palm tree snapped off about halfway up and landed about 5 feet behind him. He played it off like it was no big deal but you could tell by his face that he was stunned. Had it hit him it might have changed how they broadcast hurricanes the same way that Janet J. changed the Super Bowl halftime show.

Funny thing -- CNN was actually talking about this tonight. The question was posed, "does someone have to get killed for newscasters to change the way they cover storms."

Also saw William Gray on tonight--he doesn't give to many interviews, it was nice to hear from him, even if he didn't have anything new to add.


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scottsvb
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Re: Landfall point [Re: rule]
      #28093 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:33 PM

I been at work most of the night so I couldnt respond to any emails sent to me. Also been on phone with NWS. Landfall will be on the Alabama-Florida boarder within 20 miles. This was adjusted just east due to land interaction (we think) from La causing a minor push to the NNE for 2 hours and now is back on a almost 5dg north march. Ivan will make landfall about 40 miles east of where I projected my Biloxi-Mobile landfall. Anyone from Biloxi-Ft Walton beach needs to get indoors NOW and get ready for hurricane force winds after midnight. Severe winds, tornados, storm surge of 8-12 ft with high tide in many locations around 1-3am. Landfall should be in about 6 hrs. Rainfall amounts are still the same up to 12 inches near the center and just east. Local amounts higher but alot less more then 50 miles west of the center. Panama City area and inland thru the panhandle is experiencing many spawned short-lived tornados and also across alabama and mississippi. That will continue for the next 2 days or more. Rainfall amounts further north will rise as Ivan moves NNE and stalls out over the Tenn valley. A strong ridge will form to its north and dive Se this weekend blocking any NE movement out and may push this west to western Tenn before a turn north Monday into Tuesday to the Ohio Valley. The problem up there wont be the wind but the several inches of rain. More on Jeanne later,,, but right now, everyone near any water or open ground need to get in a save place. Everyone elsewhere need to get indoors for the next 12-18hrs and but whatever they have in theyre fridges,,,into the freezers and when power goes out,,,put in coolers so they stay colder when everything warms up.

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Wxwatcher2
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Re: Frank P. [Re: LI Phil]
      #28094 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:34 PM

Hope Frank is safe as well.
He did sound nervous and excited earlier.

Probably has his hands full right now.


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Kdubs
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Re: Nowcast [Re: Kent]
      #28095 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:34 PM

Quote:

gulp ...that is water! Look above the camera this is what the guy wrote:
Note: I have gone in and put a battery powered lantern inside the HLP vehicle so that we can at least see inside the Isuzu. If the water begins to fill it up- we should be able to see that. Also- the time on the web cam image is set to Central time.




I am having difficulty deciphering that image from the webcam. Could you describe where you see water a little more simply for my tired head? Thanks

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danielwAdministrator
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Re: Frank P. [Re: LI Phil]
      #28096 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:35 PM

FrankP and Javelin have probably lost power. There are quite a few tall pines in those areas. They love to drop a limb on the powerlines when the wind blows. TWC crew at the casino is about 4to 5 miles from FrankP and Javelin.

Water fills up the lower 1/3 of the camera shot, and is a greyish color.

Edited by danielw (Wed Sep 15 2004 10:36 PM)


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SkeetoBiteAdministrator
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Re: TWC...my $.02 [Re: clyde w.]
      #28097 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:35 PM

Quote:

One of our local station reporters was broadcasting live in Frances when a large palm tree snapped off about halfway up and landed about 5 feet behind him. He played it off like it was no big deal but you could tell by his face that he was stunned. Had it hit him it might have changed how they broadcast hurricanes the same way that Janet J. changed the Super Bowl halftime show.

Funny thing -- CNN was actually talking about this tonight. The question was posed, "does someone have to get killed for newscasters to change the way they cover storms."

Also saw William Gray on tonight--he doesn't give to many interviews, it was nice to hear from him, even if he didn't have anything new to add.




Yeah, they'll change it when a piece of aluminum siding goes "al qaeda" on live television


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Rasvar
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Re: Frank P. [Re: LI Phil]
      #28098 - Wed Sep 15 2004 10:35 PM

He should be in the hurricane force winds. I would be willing to bet that he has lost all power. Cell phone service is probably a little disrupted. I could not call out during Charley. Had to wait for the winds to subside and then only had it for a few more hours until they were able to refuel or restart generators. I would not be surprised if no one hears from him until tomorrow afternoon.

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