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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: MillardDJr]
      #83669 - Mon Sep 01 2008 05:34 PM

Hanna latest pass...


A. Time of Center Fix: 1st day of the month at 17:11:50Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 22°30'N 72°27'W (22.5N 72.45W)
B. Center Fix Location: 111 miles (178 km) to the NW (310°) from Cockburn Town, Turks and Caicos Islands (GBR).
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 1,301m (4,268ft) at 850mb
D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 64kts (~ 73.6mph)

H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 985mb (29.09 inHg)

Remarks Section - Remarks That Were Decoded...
Maximum Flight Level Wind: 77kts (~ 88.6mph) in the southeast quadrant at 16:26Z
Maximum Flight Level Temp: 23°C (73°F) which was observed 36 nautical miles (41 statute miles) to the NE (39°) from the flight level center
Remarks Section - Additional Remarks...
BANDING EVIDENT IN CENTER BUT STILL NO TRUE INNER EYEWALL STRUCTURE ON RADAR

that's about 1mb an hour and a half... Hanna is still taking a beating from the shear... her core is still having time setting up...

Hanna a Hurricane now..

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward, TD#9 Forms in Atlantic [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #83671 - Mon Sep 01 2008 05:39 PM

TWC just reported that Hanna is officially a hurricane at 75 mph.

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: Storm Hunter]
      #83674 - Mon Sep 01 2008 05:56 PM

An excerpt from the Special Advisory on Hanna:

THE TRACK HAS ALSO BEEN SLIGHTLY ADJUSTED BASED ON THE LATEST FIX. THIS SPECIAL ADVISORY SUPERSEDES THE INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY.

They said that they adjusted the track slightly....does anyone know which way the adjusted it? To the left or to the right?

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: Colleen A.]
      #83675 - Mon Sep 01 2008 06:08 PM

Slightly to the left. Though I don't see much difference.

Edited by hurricane_run (Mon Sep 01 2008 06:13 PM)


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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: Colleen A.]
      #83676 - Mon Sep 01 2008 06:08 PM

I think a lot will depend on what Gustav does and how fast he moves. How Hanna moves NW at that angle I don't see but we'll see...

Gustav is supposed to slow but he hasn't slowed much has he?

Think it's in the latest recon or discussion the relocation of Hanna but less concerned with the temporary relocation vs the track...

Boy has Gustav moved fast, before our eyes... 3 storms out there, THREE and we aren't far from the fourth!

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: Colleen A.]
      #83677 - Mon Sep 01 2008 06:08 PM

I hope I'm reading this correctly. 1:30 update has her at 22.4N and 72.6W whereas 11am advisory had her at 23.0N and 72.9W. Does that help?

Does anyone know how St. Bernard parish is doing with it's newspaper stuffed levees?

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: Bryan]
      #83678 - Mon Sep 01 2008 06:17 PM

Recon was having a really hard time putting a fix on the center as Hanna has a broad circulation.

All the reports that I've seen have been saying the levee's are holding fine. There is splashing and over topping but now breaches that I've heard of.


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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: Bryan]
      #83679 - Mon Sep 01 2008 06:17 PM

Navy just declared the INVEST behind Hannah 90L.

The NHC doesn't think that it will form at this time, though the surface pressures in the area are low.

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: Bryan]
      #83680 - Mon Sep 01 2008 06:21 PM

Would not put much focus on the models right now given that they are a bit off, still awaiting the 18Z guidance not sure if this new position will make it into the 18Z run more likely the 00Z run tonight. My thinking is will see some westward shift possibly to the models tonight considering it continues to meander to the WSW. GFS showing a rather strong cane moving up into Georgia coast in about 96hrs, rather rare.

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: Joe]
      #83684 - Mon Sep 01 2008 06:35 PM

Found a live weather station in Pine Cay in Turk and Caicos islands. Which is just SSW of the center. Currently have air temp of 76F, Wind SW at 48 mph, Gusting to 56 mph, Pressure 986mb...

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: CaneTrackerInSoFl]
      #83685 - Mon Sep 01 2008 06:44 PM

Best track now has TD#9 as Ike, so Ike at 5PM, Hanna a Hurricane, Gustav inland, and likely another depression tomorrow to boot. No rest for the weary....

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: MikeC]
      #83689 - Mon Sep 01 2008 07:05 PM

Gustav is spinning down now. Max winds near 90mph as of 3PM. Now we have to see how fast it slows down for the inland flooding threat. It hasn't slowed much yet.

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: MikeC]
      #83690 - Mon Sep 01 2008 07:10 PM

Latest observation in Pine Cay in Turks Islands Temp - 78F, Wind - SW - 48MPH, Gusts 64 mph, Pressure 984mb. Pressure contiues to gradually drop and winds gradually increasing...

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: Joe]
      #83691 - Mon Sep 01 2008 07:34 PM

Question for the forum. Is Hanna moving at all, or has she stalled....I'm running to home Depot to get plywood, and clearing up junk around the yard, and want to get this done today. Any thoughts?

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: Joe]
      #83692 - Mon Sep 01 2008 07:35 PM

Hello all, I am in Merritt Island, and thinking that we should get a pretty decent glancing blow from Hanna, My brother is a MET back home on Long Island, and sent me some pretty good links, hopefully all of them have not been posted here already. Lets all stay safe.............. Rob

http://tropicalatlantic.com/recon/ (Tropical Cyclone Recon. Decoder)

http://euler.atmos.colostate.edu/~vigh/guidance/index.htm (Operational Model Guidance from Colorado State University/[CSU])

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/ewalltropmain.html (E-Wall Tropics/Penn State University)

http://wxmaps.org/pix/hurpot.html (Maximum Potential Hurricane Intensity)

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/ (Experimental Tropical Cyclone Genesis Fields/FSU-Florida State University)

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/cyclone/data/at.html (Tropical Cyclone Heat Potential)

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/TC.html (Navy Tropical Cyclone Page)

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic2/ (CIMSS Tropical Cyclone Page/University Of Wisconsin)

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/trop-atl.html (Atlantic and Carribean Satellite Imagery/NOAA)

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/tropical.asp (New Tropical Page from RAMDIS/CSU)

http://www.fema.gov/ (Self Explanatory)

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: Mag]
      #83693 - Mon Sep 01 2008 07:51 PM

Man things are busy out there. I was looking at charts and graphs on here and putting into play the wsw movement of Hanna and this looks like a North Florida storm to me somewhere between Flagler Beach to Jacksonville. It looks like some of the models are starting to think the same thing. does anyone think the NHC will catch on to this.

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: watchinout]
      #83694 - Mon Sep 01 2008 07:55 PM

Wow! Hanna already up to 88 kt max. flight level winds and 77 kt surface winds. So it´s a strong cat. 1!

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: watchinout]
      #83695 - Mon Sep 01 2008 07:58 PM

There is very little evidence that Hanna is going to take a more westward route than forecast. Almost all the models are clustering between a north Florida to South Carolina landfall, with a few outliers.

See:
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/~acevans/models/al082008.png
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/~acevans/models/al082008_late.png

Also, per hanna, latest recon pass found 983mb central pressure (no vortex recon; purely HDOBs) and a max surface wind of between 75 and 77kts. If this slow strengthening continues (about 1-2mb drop per hour), it will hit category 2 (80 kt / ~979mb) sometime late this afternoon or early this evening.

Recon (the previous run) reported a very broad pressure and wind center. As she spins up, this will condense. Will be interesting to watch. Models only call for cat 1 to cat 2 max.

Edit: Vortex Recon finally came in. About what I said, plus: "GREATLY IMPROVED RADAR BANDING IN CENTER"

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: Raymond]
      #83696 - Mon Sep 01 2008 07:59 PM

And lower pressures are being found still.

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Re: Gustav Approaching Louisiana, Hanna Slowly Drifting Westward [Re: hurricane_run]
      #83697 - Mon Sep 01 2008 08:04 PM

And that can be confirmed with surface observation in pine cay where pressure currently is 983.6mb, winds still sustained near 50-55mph with gusts 60-65mph at this location.

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