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DroopGB31
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Re: Wobbles, Bobbles and Grovels.... Oh my.... [Re: Unregistered User]
      #23881 - Fri Sep 03 2004 04:41 PM

Anybody know when the SW shear over Francis will let up? Its very obvious right now in the visible satellite. I think when or if it lets up then she'll begin intensifying again, but until then she'll at least be able to maintain herself. Any answers Clark, JK?

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gailmm
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Re: Vortex Decoding Tool [Re: Londovir]
      #23882 - Fri Sep 03 2004 04:42 PM

This is great for us lay people. You are a magician. Thanks.

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Ed in Va
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Re: Vortex Decoding Tool [Re: gailmm]
      #23883 - Fri Sep 03 2004 04:43 PM

5:00 Advisory


DATA FROM A RECONNAISSANCE PLANE AND SATELLITE INDICATE THAT Frances
HAS CHANGED LITTLE IN ORGANIZATION DURING THE PAST FEW HOURS AND
REMAINS A DANGEROUS HURRICANE. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS KEPT AT 100
KNOTS BUT...BASED ON RECENT OBSERVATIONS FROM THE STEPPED-FREQUENCY
MICROWAVE RADIOMETER...SFMR...INSTRUMENT ON BOARD A NOAA
AIRCRAFT...THE WIND FIELD APPEARS TO BE EXPANDING A LITTLE BIT.
THIS NECESSITATES EXTENSION OF THE TROPICAL STORM WARNING NORTHWARD
ALONG THE FLORIDA EAST COAST. THE HURRICANE HAS ABOUT 24 HOURS TO
STRENGTHEN...IF AT ALL...WHILE MOVING OVER WATER. ALTHOUGH NONE OF
THE GUIDANCE SHOW SIGNIFICANT STREGTHENING...THERE IS A SMALL
OPPORTUNITY FOR Frances TO RE-INTENSIFY SOMEWHAT AS IT PASSES OVER
THE GULF STREAM AND APPROACHES THE FLORIDA COAST.

AS ANTICIPATED...THE HURRICANE IS MOVING RIGHT ON TRACK WITH THE
USUAL WOBBLES. THE INITIAL MOTION IS 300 DEGREES OR WEST-NORTHWEST
AT ABOUT 7 KNOTS AND A TRACK BETWEEN THE WEST-NORTHWEST AND
NORTHWEST WITH A GRADUAL DECREASE IN FORWARD SPEED IS EXPECTED
DURING THE NEXT 2 TO 3 DAYS. BECAUSE NEITHER THE STEERING NOR THE
TRACK GUIDANCE HAVE CHANGED..THERE IS NO POINT TO DISCUSS IT AGAIN.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT Frances...A POWERFUL HURRICANE...IS
FORECAST TO MOVE VERY SLOWLY ACROSS FLORIDA. HOWEVER...THE TIMING
AND LOCATION OF LANDFALL CAN NOT BE SPECIFIED EXACTLY.

BECAUSE Frances IS A SLOW MOVING HURRICANE...IT COULD BRING
TORRENTIAL RAINS TO PORTIONS OF FLORIDA.

FORECASTER AVILA

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 03/2100Z 25.9N 77.5W 100 KT
12HR VT 04/0600Z 26.5N 78.4W 100 KT
24HR VT 04/1800Z 27.4N 80.0W 105 KT
36HR VT 05/0600Z 28.0N 81.5W 70 KT...INLAND
48HR VT 05/1800Z 28.5N 82.5W 35 KT...INLAND
72HR VT 06/1800Z 31.1N 85.0W 30 KT...INLAND
96HR VT 07/1800Z 35.1N 87.0W 20 KT...INLAND
120HR VT 08/1800Z 40.0N 85.0W 20 KT...INLAND

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Bev
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Re: Vortex Decoding Tool [Re: Londovir]
      #23884 - Fri Sep 03 2004 04:43 PM

Wow! Awesome tool, thanks for making it available!

Best Regards,
Bev


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Colleen A.
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Re: not what we needed [Re: DroopGB31]
      #23885 - Fri Sep 03 2004 04:47 PM

FINALLY...Alan Winfield (what a name for met in Florida, huh?) just pointed out where the center of the storm is: right smack between the big island chain (Abaco Islands?) and the island south to it, and she's over water. Moving to the WNW. *IF* this continues, there will be another track shift to the left.

Well, my eyes are blurry, so I'm gonna go rest them for a while.

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wxman007
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Re: Panhandle Weather this weekend.. [Re: HCW]
      #23889 - Fri Sep 03 2004 05:02 PM

Increasingly less likely...not out of the question, but even if it does it would probably be in a very weak state.

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wxman007
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Re: Panhandle Weather this weekend.. [Re: digitalssinc]
      #23890 - Fri Sep 03 2004 05:05 PM

It's real, but it may not matter too much...the forecast track would keep it over land a long time, and a very short time back over the Gulf...unless it comes back into the Gulf much further south than forecast she's not gonna have time to do much of anything...and if she does, she'll have to stall and not make landfall until Tue or Wed (Which is highly unlikely).

We are the NBC affiliate for the Destin area, so give us a look on your visit.

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wxman007
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Re: Wobbles, Bobbles and Grovels.... Oh my.... [Re: DroopGB31]
      #23892 - Fri Sep 03 2004 05:12 PM

To my eye, there really isn't that much shear...I concur with Clark that what we are seeing is the 'hangover' from Frances ingesting the remnant of that ULL over the Bahamas...

Current Shear Map

Notice the very light shear....

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Matt033
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Re: Wobbles, Bobbles and Grovels.... Oh my.... [Re: wxman007]
      #23893 - Fri Sep 03 2004 05:14 PM

I think there is a fair chances for this to become 120 mph hurricane again?

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Colleen A.
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Re: Panhandle Weather this weekend.. [Re: wxman007]
      #23894 - Fri Sep 03 2004 05:15 PM

They shifted the track back to the left again...I think he said Indian River area? No, I think it's still Vero Beach. And it's back to taking 24 hours to cross the state.

The met on Channel 9 Orlando mentioned something about a potential turn before it hits the coast, but then said the NHC is adamant about this track. Is a turn to the N/NW possible at this point?

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eligrace
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Re: Wobbles, Bobbles and Grovels.... Oh my.... [Re: wxman007]
      #23895 - Fri Sep 03 2004 05:21 PM

Jason-do you or anyone know where i can get a display of the winfield along the forecasted track-the track that was predicted on the 5:00p.m. advisory?

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Frank P
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Mike posted a new Heading.... [Re: eligrace]
      #23896 - Fri Sep 03 2004 05:25 PM

FWIW..... there is a new heading posted.... probably good idea to post there

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StormHound
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Re: Wobbles, Bobbles and Grovels.... Oh my.... [Re: eligrace]
      #23897 - Fri Sep 03 2004 05:26 PM

Quote:

Jason-do you or anyone know where i can get a display of the winfield along the forecasted track-the track that was predicted on the 5:00p.m. advisory?



Check www.skeetobite.com in a little while. He's been doing a great job with wind field graphics.

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Storm Hound
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Cathy
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Re: Vortex Decoding Tool [Re: Londovir]
      #23902 - Fri Sep 03 2004 05:29 PM

WOW - a great tool, thanks for sharing with us!

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eligrace
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Re: Wobbles, Bobbles and Grovels.... Oh my.... [Re: StormHound]
      #23904 - Fri Sep 03 2004 05:38 PM

Thanks storm hound!!!

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Terra
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Re: Vortex Decoding Tool [Re: Londovir]
      #23938 - Fri Sep 03 2004 07:47 PM

Wow, that's awesome. I can never remember which line is which and it used to take forever to look everything up!!!!

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