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Rasvar
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Re: jeanne etc [Re: Keith234]
      #31797 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:08 PM

A little OT; but I have a bad feeling there are going to be about 70K folks in Gainesville who are in for a surprise in about four hours when the get back in their vehicles and hear the latest update. Especially the ones who live on the Florida west coast.

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Re: ERC [Re: Unregistered User]
      #31798 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:11 PM

Perhaps I should have phrased the ERC note differently...it could be good news, depending on what phase she's in...as a few of you have pointed out, it could also be VERY BAD news.

This is going to be much worse than Frances, no matter what phase it's in...we can only hope she's weakening at landfall.

Just saw what Jeanne did to Abaco (they got the eye)...

wishing and hoping and praying for a miracle

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Re: ERC [Re: Unregistered User]
      #31799 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:13 PM

Yeah, JB thinks this has a shot to be the worst of the 4 canes that hit FL this year. He thinks hurricane conditions up through coastal GA and probably through the Carolinas. This one looks bad folks. You guys have taken a decade's worth of hits in 2 months. Unbelievable.

Good luck

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Re: ERC [Re: Unregistered User]
      #31801 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:15 PM

The 12Z Models are now out..

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WXMAN RICHIE: A Question For You RE: Polk Affect [Re: WXMAN RICHIE]
      #31802 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:23 PM

Considering your previous post and with your experience, what would be your guess as to the affect this hurricane would have on Polk County when it passes, more spefically around Lakeland? It seems our Emergency Management people are gonna get bit in the backside on this one as they are seeming caught off guard not wanting to seem alarmist or unsure of the track.

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Re: ERC [Re: LI Phil]
      #31803 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:24 PM

Sorry if I missed it but where does JB say landfall is going to be?

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Re: avila [Re: LI Phil]
      #31804 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:25 PM

Quote:

He's no Stacy Stewart, but Mr. Avila still gets the point across...

"look mummy, there’s an aeroplane up in the sky"
Did you see the frightened ones?
Did you hear the falling bombs?
Did you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter when the
Promise of a brave new world unfurled beneath a clear ??




Thought my hour or so afk trip cost me this one...

... blue sky.

Going to see about lunch.


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Kent
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Re: ERC [Re: Kent]
      #31805 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:26 PM

...and where are those darn Hurricane boys with the car on EBAY? They love the eye....

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LI Phil
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Re: ERC [Re: Kent]
      #31806 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:27 PM

Quote:

Sorry if I missed it but where does JB say landfall is going to be?




"Its going lower and disaster may be looming I think for Florida, with a 940 or lower storm possible at landfall tonight near Melbourne around 3 am, Jeane being the biggest and strongest of the 4. I pray I am wrong, given the implications."

I should add that landfall would occur earlier if there is a more southerly landfall...JB's calling for it to go over EDs house! Maybe ed can send a tornado up to St. College, PA? Not funny I know.

Folks getting the first feeder bands need to be aware of the tornado dangers...have your safe room prepped NOW!

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Edited by LI Phil (Sat Sep 25 2004 04:29 PM)


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Re: ERC [Re: LI Phil]
      #31807 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:28 PM

Phil,
new GFS is out, and my guess on my PM yesterday might be verifying for us. It has a major shift west, as it keeps it inland almost up the entire coast. It puts it just offshore my area, and just south of you at 84 hours, with L.I. getting strong winds, and heavy rains. For a while, I am in the right front quad. if this new shifted track is to be believed.
The reason I am inclined to believe this farther west track is, that I have been expecting the model to shift left for a few days now, and it has been doing just that.
We won't get anything near what our friends to the south do, but there is no part of the east coast that can handle these well right now. At least it will be moving at a pretty decent rate.
The H2O pic shows that ridge quite well. There is a ULL at 30N 50W that is diving down, which looks like it is helping bulge the ridge steering Jeanne more to the left.
The trof in the upper Great lakes does not look like it is breaking down the ridge as much as the models broke it down the other day. Jeanne should act to push back the front that is expected to move through our area, and for this reason, I think the GFS QPF may be a little underdone.

Edited by MrSpock (Sat Sep 25 2004 04:30 PM)


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Re: ERC [Re: Kent]
      #31808 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:29 PM

Quote:

...and where are those darn Hurricane boys with the car on EBAY? They love the eye....




Looks like I95 south right now.

http://www.hurricanetrack.com/tahoe.html


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Re: WXMAN RICHIE: A Question For You RE: Polk Affect [Re: Interstate4Jamming]
      #31809 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:30 PM

Still too early to know, I'm not even sure how bad I am going to get it yet. I keep waiting for the turn and it's not happening. However, you should be prepared for possible cat. 1-2 effects. I'm not surprised it has continued due west. If you check my post from 8 am yesterday I predicted that. It wasn't a wishcast, it's what I call a worrycast. I just saw a beeline west track like Andrew and I still hold out a little hope it changes.

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Re: ERC [Re: MrSpock]
      #31810 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:31 PM

Thanks for the update Mr.Spock. We are expected 50 mph winds at least that's what I heard, going to knock out power I bet, too many trees but nothing like what Florida will be about to experince.

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Re: ERC [Re: MikeC]
      #31811 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:31 PM

Quote:

Quote:

...and where are those darn Hurricane boys with the car on EBAY? They love the eye....




Looks like I95 south right now.

http://www.hurricanetrack.com/tahoe.html




That one better not end up on Ebay, if you catch my drift!

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Re: ERC [Re: LI Phil]
      #31812 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:32 PM

Afternoon everyone, just a novice here who benefits from all the knowledge. Been away a b-day party what are current coordinates? How many think it makes it into the GOM?


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Re: ERC [Re: Keith234]
      #31813 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:33 PM

If you're anywhere near Phil, take a look at this loop, as it shows it quite well....
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/12/index_ten_m_loop.shtml

I know you guys got excessive rains from Ivan, which one of our forecasters down here said wouldn't affect us 5 days prior.
To me, a long range forecast right now is 48 hours!


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Re: ERC [Re: MikeC]
      #31814 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:33 PM

Quote:

Quote:

...and where are those darn Hurricane boys with the car on EBAY? They love the eye....




Looks like I95 south right now.

http://www.hurricanetrack.com/tahoe.html




ROFL - speed limit there is 70. They're going 67 with "gusts" up to 85


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Re: ERC [Re: LI Phil]
      #31815 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:34 PM

Hi Phil
A lot of us are praying as well.

It just keeps on keepin on in florida.

THis is insane.

Like I've said, I'm so sad for all the damge that is ocurring in Florida.
From personal damage to beach erosion to flooding, it's all bad and very very costly.

Keep Praying everyone.


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Re: ERC [Re: LI Phil]
      #31816 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:34 PM

Just curious but what predictions do you guys think regarding northeast Fl? I'm just off the Amelia Island area in Nassau County, north of Jacksonville. Yesterday they had it going over us and today it is to the west. Curious about possible wind strength. We generaly get missed, yet we do get hyped its gonna hit us sooner or later.

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Re: ERC [Re: LI Phil]
      #31817 - Sat Sep 25 2004 04:35 PM

Another weather update (I'm northeast of Orlando btw, but not by much):

Barometric pressure has fallen a couple of millibars (998 now vs. 1000 earlier). The cloudiness is more pronounced than it was earlier this morning. The winds are also gusting up to around 15 mph, and these gusts are becoming more numerous. I can already tell that Jeanne is obviously going to have strong winds that will penetrate well inland. More updates to come.

I agree that an ERC is occuring right now...almost looks as if the eyewall is jogging northwest. I believe that is a part of the replacement cycle. A category 4, although still not likely imo, is still possible at this point. That intensity would depend on what Jeanne makes of her last 9-12 hours over water.

If this is to be the finale for Florida hurricanes this season, it sure looks to be grand.


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