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Terra
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Re: modles [Re: Unregistered User]
      #39380 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:25 AM

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Er isnt this cane 200 miles across?




Oh, you mean being 100 miles from where the eye of the storm hits land... in a lateral direction.... for some reason your post implied to me that you were going to watch the storm when it was still 100 miles off the coast...

Good point... rjp... I'll stop antagonizing.... Man, I'm bad about that today!

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Frank P
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Re: North? [Re: Unregistered User]
      #39381 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:27 AM

tracking it on Cuban radar sure looks like a solid NW to me too...

http://www.met.inf.cu/Radar/03Cienfuegos/cienfuegosa.gif


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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: pcola]
      #39382 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:28 AM

What is the extrapolated line represent?

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RedingtonBeachGuy
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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: wxman007]
      #39383 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:28 AM

seems the models are all coming into agreement now.. things must be getting a bit more stable to predict from.

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WeatherNLUAway
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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: pcola]
      #39384 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:29 AM

XTRAP is an extrapolated line using the current overall motion of the storm. In other words, it's where it would go if it does not change direction at all from now until landfall.

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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: pcola]
      #39385 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:29 AM

thats if it continued on its present motion without changing

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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: Bev]
      #39386 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:30 AM

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You missed my point entirely. My point was that you just might have to "ride it out" no matter where you evacuate to, so you should be prepared to do exactly that, whether you stay where you are or flee to a county that isn't even under an evacuation order.

I had hoped for intelligent discussion on how to protect yourself where you are, and not always relying on "head somewhere else". Because sometimes you can't head somewhere else, you find it on your heels despite trying to get away from it. I am not a brave advocate of "riding it out",. I'm simply a concerned mother trying to keep my family safe.

-Bev




Sorry, I misunderstood as well. The first thing I would recommend is to always evacuate inland. Evacuating up or down the coast is a dangerous proposition. Evacuating from one coast to the other will work, too.

If you are in the path of the hurricane, evaucation zone or not, always move to the center of the building farthest away from windows. I have recently heard that a mattress over your head is a bad idea, more people get crushed beneath them then are saved from falling debris. Instead, use a thick blanket. If things are real bad, a tub is an excellent hiding place.

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Re: modles [Re: rjp]
      #39387 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:30 AM

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Quote:

Er isnt this cane 200 miles across?


Seeing posts from people like this makes me think things should be restricted to registered members until things calm down. lol






well Frances was about the same size as Dennis and that was 200 miles across with hurricane force winds 65 miles from centre!


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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: pcola]
      #39388 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:31 AM

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Why the sudden shift to the west on the models.??? I was excited about the eastward trend for us, but now most come right towards the western panhandle.




Obviously they'll keying in on some change to the ridge on day 3. But, maybe they'll cluster together tomorrow and we can all get a better idea of where this thing is headed. I think the Gulfstream jet will be making a data gathering run tonite, which should greatly improve (hopefully) tomorrows models. It's too soon yet to write off anywhere from NO to the FL peninsula.

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Brief 8pm Update [Re: Ron Basso]
      #39390 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:34 AM

So with the cluster of models moving back towards the west the earlier talk of Dennis possibly skirting the west coast of FL it this still a possibility?

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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: AgentB]
      #39391 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:34 AM

I also see a more northerly trend. As for the models, it is my observation that we need to be watching the actual movements over a few hours to determine if these wobbles are an actual new track or just a brief drift one way or another. Once we see if it establishes a new track we then may be able to see what is influencing the track and see if it will hold. My thought is if the high pressure ridge begins to break down then it would have to turn more poleward and perhaps bring it up the east side of Florida kind of like a Floyd track of 1999 something Clark discussed in an earlier blog today. Any thoughts on my idea?

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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: Southern4sure]
      #39392 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:34 AM

yes it is

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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: Lysis]
      #39393 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:35 AM

NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO...lol

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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: j.c.]
      #39394 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:36 AM

Well, that would be good for me here just north of Orlando.... it would be too good to be true.

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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: Ron Basso]
      #39395 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:37 AM

Was just over at Hurricane City's website and they have a tool which you can use to see which storms have passed near the area of current concern/nearest major city to the current Hurricane.

With Port Antonio, Jamaica being the city nearest to Dennis, the last time this area was brushed or hit by a storm was last year by Ivan.....Now by no means is this to say that Dennis will take the same course as Ivan but very interesting to say the least.

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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: FireAng85]
      #39396 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:37 AM

that you get hit?

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Re: OH NO -- Cantore go somewhere else [Re: j.c.]
      #39397 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:37 AM

Did someone say "free plywood" I know there is none up here in Crestview..or gas, or generators, or pretty much anything else. Most stations closed up early this evening. Hopefully they will have more time to fill them up before 85 becomes a parking lot like it did for Opal.

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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: j.c.]
      #39398 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:38 AM

Watching for a trend is the key in movement but I agree that the exit point on the north coast of Cuba is critical for the impact of the Florida peninsula.

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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: RedingtonBeachGuy]
      #39399 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:38 AM

I was told that the 18Z did not have the data in it from the Gulfstream, so it basically isnt really useful. 00Z should have new data...

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Re: Brief 8pm Update [Re: RedingtonBeachGuy]
      #39400 - Fri Jul 08 2005 01:38 AM

I dont mean this to question anyone's knowledge but my own. Yesterday, when all of the models were saying similar thngs everyone seemed very suspicious. Now it seems that more people are seeing that as evidence that they models are somewhat verifying each other. What changed?

Thanks again for helping all of us who don't know muc understand and stay on guard.


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