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mojorox
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Re:Frankliin [Re: Major7]
      #45261 - Mon Jul 25 2005 06:49 AM

Major7, here is a cool link to ..I think ..sat pics of the dust storm.
http://www.nbc6.net/slideshow/4759870/detail.html?qs=


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Re:Frankliin [Re: mojorox]
      #45264 - Mon Jul 25 2005 09:56 AM

And Major7, here is a graphic showing where the dust is: http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/wavetrak/winds/m8g10split.html

As for those storms over Africa...wow.


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Re: there goes... [Re: Margie]
      #45265 - Mon Jul 25 2005 10:03 AM

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What keeps the lower level circulation going when the upper level circulation is so distant? Asked a similar ? earlier today but no response. How do the two levels of circulation interact?


Not a whole lot. It just takes a little while to spin down. I used to know the math formula to figure the spin down time, but that was many years ago. Franklin is weakening as time goes on. This morning's IR loop shows the LLC continuing to collapse and then reform making small loops as it does.

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Names [Re: MichaelA]
      #45266 - Mon Jul 25 2005 10:08 AM

Just wondering...what happens if we hit Z and still have to name more storms?

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Re: Names [Re: Random Chaos]
      #45267 - Mon Jul 25 2005 10:12 AM

Thanks Random Chaos and mojorox for the links. I am up early this AM to see if our sunrise looks any different..

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Re: Names [Re: Random Chaos]
      #45268 - Mon Jul 25 2005 11:25 AM

I believe HF said they would continue tith Alpha, Beta...........

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Re:Frankliin [Re: Ryan]
      #45269 - Mon Jul 25 2005 11:26 AM

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maybe you, im all clear hear on the island..just hot and humid

were hurricane free, right?




um...no

long island canes

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Re:Frankliin [Re: LI Phil]
      #45271 - Mon Jul 25 2005 12:17 PM

"1985 hurricane gloria gives area gusts to 115mph shuts down NYSE area reported many pre mature births due to low pressure."

That's interesting..I had no idea low pressure effected births.

(Editted due to misuse of affect....it's so confusing)

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Edited by Shalafi (Mon Jul 25 2005 12:29 PM)


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Re: there goes... [Re: MichaelA]
      #45272 - Mon Jul 25 2005 12:33 PM

Good morning. Well it looks like Franklin isn't any further south than late last night, but has moved northeast, and is looking weaker. I can see what you mean about the LLC reforming; looks like it kind of hops along to keep pace with the upper level convection. Does it seem this morning like the sheer is coming a little more from the west, and the convection is trying to climb east, albiet quite a didstance from the center of the LLC? Regardless I guess this week we'll see Franklin's long slow decline.

Can someone post good links to sat images showing the waves travelling off Africa and towards the Caribbean? I only know about the NOAA NHC page of satellite links. May be a good time to learn about how to see these forming into TD.

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African Wave Train [Re: Margie]
      #45273 - Mon Jul 25 2005 12:37 PM

is under full steam:



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Re: there goes... [Re: Margie]
      #45274 - Mon Jul 25 2005 12:38 PM

Margie:

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/images/images.html
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/trop-atl.html
http://www.nlmoc.navy.mil/cgi-bin/main.pl?satellite


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Re:Frankliin [Re: Shalafi]
      #45275 - Mon Jul 25 2005 12:45 PM

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"1985 hurricane gloria gives area gusts to 115mph shuts down NYSE area reported many pre mature births due to low pressure."

That's interesting..I had no idea low pressure effected births.

(Editted due to misuse of affect....it's so confusing)




Affect, not effect, would be the clearer choice in that sentence. However you could say that one effect of the low pressure was to induce more births.

Affect is a verb and in this case means to influence.
Using effect as a verb here, while not technically incorrect, has a slightly different and more limited meaning that is probably not the best word choice; while you could say that the low pressure effected the births that is more like saying it carried them out or implemented them, rather than caused them, as if the hurricane was a midwife. Effect is used more often as a noun, where it generally refers to a result.

let's keep the grammar police in the station...next post like this gets whacked ]

Don't misunderstand - trying to be helpful by providing information when someone says that they are confused is not the same as being critical, especially when it is not presented in a negative or demeaning way. Many posts have less than ideal grammar or spelling and I have no interest in commenting on that in general, only providing information when it is requested. Remember if someone stated they were confused about a weather issue you would not hesitate to provide commentary. --Margie

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Re: African Wave Train [Re: LI Phil]
      #45276 - Mon Jul 25 2005 12:48 PM

Oh my goodness that looks like a little parade. So that's what someone meant last night by the conga line.

OK guess there will be a lot to watch and learn in the near future.

Thanks LI Phil and Random Chaos.

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Re:Frankliin [Re: Margie]
      #45277 - Mon Jul 25 2005 01:05 PM

Quote:

Affect, not effect, would be the clearer choice in that sentence. However you could say that one effect of the low pressure was to induce more births.

Affect is a verb and in this case means to influence.
Using effect as a verb here, while not technically incorrect, has a slightly different and more limited meaning that is probably not the best word choice; while you could say that the low pressure effected the births that is more like saying it carried them out or implemented them, rather than caused them, as if the hurricane was a midwife. Effect is used more often as a noun, where it generally refers to a result.




I give up. I looked it up on 2 websites...got the proper use and thought I had it nailed since affect is something you are going to do and effect is something that has happened...so I give up...

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Re:Frankliin [Re: Shalafi]
      #45278 - Mon Jul 25 2005 01:06 PM

Not a problem. Most of us make spelling and grammar mistakes. We just live
with em, and go on... It is NOT the end of the world



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Re: African Wave Train [Re: Margie]
      #45280 - Mon Jul 25 2005 01:28 PM

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Oh my goodness that looks like a little parade. So that's what someone meant last night by the conga line.

OK guess there will be a lot to watch and learn in the near future.

Thanks LI Phil and Random Chaos.





A lot of the storms that come off of Africa break up when hitting the ocean and never develop into anything.......thank goodness.


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Re:Frankliin [Re: NewWatcher]
      #45281 - Mon Jul 25 2005 01:33 PM

anyone have a radar of the saharan dust and when will it be in fl?

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Re: African Wave Train [Re: Wxwatcher2]
      #45282 - Mon Jul 25 2005 01:35 PM

Hi, Quick question.....About how long does it take for a storm leaving africa to make land fall in the caribbean? Thanks

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Dust storm [Re: nl]
      #45283 - Mon Jul 25 2005 01:48 PM

Looked like it was here to some extent this morning here in Clermont......

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Re:Frankliin [Re: LI Phil]
      #45284 - Mon Jul 25 2005 01:48 PM

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Quote:

maybe you, im all clear hear on the island..just hot and humid

were hurricane free, right?




um...no

long island canes





Well look at this from that site you gave me

How often Long Island gets affected?
brushed or hit every 5.36 years.

we were last brushed by hurricane Bob in 1991..so unfortunatley were kind of due

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