FlaMommy
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hi i was wondering with the shuttle launch scheduled to take off again tommorrow, will the dust cloud that is expected today thur wednesday goign to affect it. and what about the dust particles that will attach itself to the shuttle and piggy back into space. Thank you guys...when should tampa experience the dust cloud...im goin to take some pics of the sunset when we get it... 
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GuppieGrouper
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The correct answer is approximately 10-14 days. The time it takes to make it from African Coast to Florida is relative and proportional to the dates that people in the North schedule their long awaited vacations at Disney World, the Bahamas, or Cancun. The size of the storm is directly proportional to the amount of money spent up front on a Cruise or non-refundable tourist package scheduled for right in the middle of hurricane season.(hee hee)
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LI Phil
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maybe you, im all clear hear on the island..just hot and humid
were hurricane free, right?
um...no
long island canes
Well look at this from that site you gave me
How often Long Island gets affected?
brushed or hit every 5.36 years.
we were last brushed by hurricane Bob in 1991..so unfortunatley were kind of due 
i'm not gonna get into it here or now, but unfortunately jim williams' site isn't entirely correct...we were clipped by Floyd ('99-met Cantore at Point Lookout), got seriously threatened by Isabel ('03) and received TS winds from ('04). we were also affected by almost every TS/HURR last year with either rain, winds or both...
this year, with the super-high SSTs, i'm very worried about the potential for a long-tracking CV storm to make it's way up here...
in a more appropriate thread, later this season, i will do a full Long Island threat/potential update
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Margie
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Shalafi/Bryan,
I sent you a PM on an easy method I use all the time myself whenever unsure about word usage. I don't consider myself erudite, just someone with a continuing interest in learning.
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Margie
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...this year, with the super-high SSTs, i'm very worried about the potential for a long-tracking CV storm to make it's way up here...
Could you elaborate on cause and effect?
When I first came to this site, earlier this month, and was in the GOM, I remember asking about whether was going to move towards the warmer SSTs and wanted to know if the SSTs steered the storm. The response I got back from one of the moderators was that hurricanes are in general steered by the upper layer air circulation (with the central pressure of the hurricane having a relationship to the height of the air circulation that would be dominant), not by SSTs.
So it appears you are saying that water temperature is a major factor in steering hurricanes? That warmer SSTs in the NE would be a contributing factor to hurricanes being steered that way?
I had thought that was not the case, but that if a hurricane happened over warmer water, warmer SSTs would be simply one factor that could facilitate strengthening.
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LI Phil
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i'm making no statement regarding SSTs and tropical cyclone movement. my point is that higher SSTs are able to sustain hurricane strength (and in the case of VERY warm SSTs increase it), so that if there were any hurricanes headed up the east coast, they could maintain intensity for a longer duration with warmer than average SSTs.
while temps of 26 degrees centigrade (approximately 79 degrees farenheit) and above are favorable for hurricane development, the warmer the SSTs are along the coast (they are currently below 79F just south of Long Island, but are nudging past 80 as far north as New Jersey), the more chance for a strong (or even weak) hurricane to remain so all the way up the coast...
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wiley
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Just going over the morning grammar lesson, I mean weather discussions and thought I'd throw in my two cents, so, here's another definition for affect from the American Heritage dictionary:
v. tr: To put on a false show of; simulate: as in "affected a British accent."
Oh, and look, here's the origin- of "erudite"
Middle English erudit, from Latin rudtus, past participle of rudre, to instruct : -, ex-, ex- + rudis, rough, untaught; see "rude."
Just thought I'd share
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Thanks for the reply!! I am sure you all get bothered by non weather enthusiast asking questions. It looks like a fun hobby! I am going to the USVI this Friday thru August 1st and was hoping to avoid any TS!! I guess I am in the clear. Sorry to bug you all. I may stick around and learn more about weather. Fascinating!!
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Lake Toho - Kissimmee
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The Sahara Dust should already be in our neck of the woods or close by. Do not expect much drama with this. It occurs frequently. I am not sure why they made such a big deal about this on the news, guess it was a slow day news wise.. Basically it will be just a hazy day (so what else is new) with very little impact to anything, except those who have chronic breathing problems. This will not be like the dust storm seen in the Mummy..
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Pamie
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From NASA's website:
The Space Shuttle Discovery and its seven-member crew are ready for launch at
10:39 a.m. EDT on Tuesday, July 26.
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ftlaudbob
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The news here is saying,expect brownish skies and dirt on your car and clothes.Everyone see that very good looking wave coming off Africa?
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Plus the 1938 LI Express storm was NOT at the point of landfall....Jim's site indicates it was in the initial listing.
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Margie
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Just going over the morning grammar lesson, I mean weather discussions and thought I'd throw in my two cents, so, here's another definition for affect from the American Heritage dictionary:
v. tr: To put on a false show of; simulate: as in "affected a British accent."
Oh, and look, here's the origin- of "erudite"
Middle English erudit, from Latin rudtus, past participle of rudre, to instruct : -, ex-, ex- + rudis, rough, untaught; see "rude."
Just thought I'd share
I don't think you shared enough. The root "rude" in this case means untrained, which is not related to its current meaning, offensive. If you're erudite, literally, you've had rudeness taken out of you; in other words, you have been educated. My comment was simply another way of saying I was not being bombastic.
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Cane Watcher
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Whats with the grammar school today? Its a message board, not a dissertation. Nobody cares about grammar or spelling as long as people can understand your point.
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Shalafi
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Whats with the grammar school today? Its a message board, not a dissertation. Nobody cares about grammar or spelling as long as people can understand your point.
Actually a dissertation is "a treatise advancing a new point of view resulting from research; usually a requirement for an advanced academic degree "
But I digress...there is no immediate danger and so straying from the topic of weather is somewhat common and allowed (within reason) I've been watching the board all morning and it's not very busy so I'm not sure why people get so upset if every single comment isn't about weather.
I personally am thrilled that I have no weather to worry about at the moment. Breathe, relax, enjoy life. When one is coming our way the off-topic chit-chat ends and serious discussion takes over...
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I know very litte about weather. I'm here to learn mostly but will post friendly replies now and then. So if you don't want to see non-weather comments ignore me now. Thanx!
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Goosus
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And to think I was curious on how someone would get to almost 300 posts in a couple of weeks...
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Ed G
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I love the "ignore this user" option!
What, did I just say something?
Darn, I'm ignoring myself again.
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Goosus
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Is it just me, or do the two waves (the one just exiting the African coast and the one right behind it) already appear to almost have a "spin" as soon as they hit the water? And they both appear to have banding features and feeder arms like you would see with a tropical system.
How is this possible? Are they already LLC's with weak upper and lower level circulation before they even make it to the ocean, or are my eyes playing tricks on me?
On a related note, does anyone know the earliest storm (in reference to distance from the African Coast) to form?
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pedro
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The little circulation of Franklin in the satalite loop view of Franklin look like is drifting south west very slowley what do u guys think go take a look
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Katie
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Ed G, I am sorry, did you say something?  kidding.
Edited by Katie (Mon Jul 25 2005 05:13 PM)
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