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cyclonekiller
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Re: Pascal's and Bernoulli's principle combined will weaken Hurricanes [Re: Myles]
      #63625 - Mon Nov 14 2005 08:12 PM

At least the fish will be getting good excersise swimming back and fourth all the time. CORALS! This is another problem Pascal's & Bernoulli's theory will solve with the tunnels.Corals are dying becuse the oceans are to hot already. To them it is as if we are boiling them alive.

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Myles
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Re: Pascal's and Bernoulli's principle combined will weaken Hurricanes [Re: cyclonekiller]
      #63626 - Mon Nov 14 2005 08:21 PM

I'm sure fish get plenty of exercise already without our help. But on a serious note, I don’t think corals are going to like it much more when the temperature drops 10 degrees in a couple of days then rebounds, and then does it again. They’ll go through the same stresses as any other animal. That will only help to kill them.

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cyclonekiller
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Re: Pascal's and Bernoulli's principle combined will weaken Hurricanes [Re: Myles]
      #63628 - Mon Nov 14 2005 08:36 PM

The tunnels don't kill sea life. Hurricanes kill sealife.

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Re: Pascal's and Bernoulli's principle combined will weaken Hurricanes [Re: cyclonekiller]
      #63636 - Tue Nov 15 2005 01:34 PM

What you are suggesting would most definetly disrupt sea life, all sea life. Before going hogwild on this idea, which is good in it's own theory, you may want to consult with a biologist, more specifically a marine biologist. I work for an environmental company, and have seen many different things get swept under the rug (so to speak) in the past only to come up and bite people in the you know where. How about draining the Everglades to eliminate the immense flooding after the Lake Okeechobee Hurricane in the 20's. Someone said "geez, we lost a lot of lives. Let's dig huge canals and drain the swamp and straighten out the Kissimmee River so farms and cities along the lake wont flood during the next hurricane." Sounded good at the time but now look what they're doing. The government is spending multiple billions of dollars on preserving the Everglades as best they can from what they had done back some 70+ years ago. They're trying to undo what they had done because not enough knowledge was available (or not used if it was) to determine the reprocussions of their actions. We have the knowledge available to us now. Not maybe the other bloggers here or myself personally, but there are people who would agree with us and back it up with facts. All that we're saying is have a consult with someone in the field and then try to determine if its feasable.

One more thing, if you will look at the dates of each hurricane/TC this year there was no more than 2-3 days in between the ending of one and the beginning of another with exception of maybe the first storm back in June and then this last month. We'd be opening up the floodgates quite often to eliminate a higher intensity hurricane. That would for sure put a huge strain on marine life. Just do some checking and then reassess your decision.


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cyclonekilller
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Re: Pascal's and Bernoulli's principle combined will weaken Hurricanes [Re: HomesteadGirl]
      #63649 - Tue Nov 15 2005 11:52 PM

A hurricane also puts unnessary strain on sea life and coral heads without global warming. We are making them more plentiful and stronger with global warming. So which one is the worse of the two?

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Re: Pascal's and Bernoulli's principle combined will weaken Hurricanes [Re: cyclonekilller]
      #63655 - Wed Nov 16 2005 12:24 PM

Good discussion... I'm heading to Cancun this weekend and was concerned about TD27... while surfing for info, came across this page. Kudos to cyclonekiller for at least coming up with a creative idea. Great leaps in humankind start with ideas that start off sounding crazy. It takes investigation and research into these ideas until there is a feasible plan or it gets trashed. Asking for mathematics at this point is pretty useless IMHO, as long as the principles are sound, it's still worth talking about.

The others are right, we don't really know what the impact or cost of this would be... but a couple key points from a layman:

1) if the tunnels main purpose is to prevent or slow the development of land threatening hurricane, fine, then its only "on" for a few days out of the year, marine life and the gulf stream "should" be okay, but this won't generate siginificant or reliable electricity (hence your cost or energy savings formula is out), so I would just drop that argument altogether.

2) life will adapt to change as it always does... minor changes to temperature is not as threatening as it sounds... the little lobster is here today because it and its ancestors can adapt to the changes in the Caribbean including temperature change and hurricanes


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Re: Pascal's and Bernoulli's principle combined will weaken Hurricanes [Re: shujat]
      #64490 - Sat Jan 21 2006 05:14 PM

A very original idea.

If moving up his tunnel to air: one open-end above sea level, another open-end to vacuum cold space, maybe it will be better. Just sending the vapor to space by one tube.
Or a much large scaled Eiffel Tower to transfer the heat to space.

But the Earth is emitting heat to space any moment. The higher the temperature, the more heat lost. Seems we needn't to do anything.


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