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#1154419 (Received by flhurricane at: 4:41 AM 25.Sep.2023)
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Tropical Storm Philippe Discussion Number 8
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL172023
500 AM AST Mon Sep 25 2023

The satellite appearance of Philippe has remained steady overnight.
Burst of deep convection, with cold cloud tops to -80 C, continue
from time to time within the overall convective plume. An AMSR
microwave pass depicts that the convection remains displaced to the
east of the low-level center, with the system still lacking
organization. Philippe is struggling to become better organized due
to the strong mid-level shear impacting the system. Subjective
Dvorak intensity estimates from TAFB and SAB remain at T3.0/45-kt
this cycle, and the initial intensity is held at 45 kt.

Philippe will continue to be in an environment with moderate to
strong mid-level shear, which will limit the overall organization of
the system. The storm is traversing fairly warm sea surface
temperatures around 29C and favorable mid-level RH values the next
few days. Given these mixed parameters and lack of organization, the
NHC forecast calls for Philippe to remain fairly steady with the
potential for some slow strengthening by the end of the period.
However, there remains uncertainty in the intensity forecast given
the guidance envelope. The ECMWF suggest the system remains steady
or may even weaken, while the GFS depicts strengthening with the
system moving far enough north into a lower shear environment. The
intensity forecast is similar to the previous, and is closest to the
IVCN and HCCA consensus aids.

The system is moving west-northwest at an estimated motion of 285/9
kt. Philippe should continue west-northwestward over the next day or
two, steered along the southern side of a mid-level ridge. In about
2 days, all models depict a weakness developing in the ridge, but
the track guidance diverges quite drastically, and it is directly
related to the intensity of the system. A deeper, stronger system,
like the GFS depicts, will feel the weakness in the ridge and curve
the system faster on a more northwestward track. However, a weaker,
shallow cyclone, like the ECMWF depicts, will cause the system to
continue on a west-northwestward or even westward track. The NHC
track forecast continues to be in the middle of the guidance, and
lies close to both the simple and corrected consensus aids. This
remains a low confidence track and intensity forecast.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 25/0900Z 17.4N 43.9W 45 KT 50 MPH
12H 25/1800Z 17.8N 45.7W 45 KT 50 MPH
24H 26/0600Z 18.3N 47.9W 45 KT 50 MPH
36H 26/1800Z 19.0N 49.9W 45 KT 50 MPH
48H 27/0600Z 20.0N 51.8W 45 KT 50 MPH
60H 27/1800Z 21.2N 53.3W 50 KT 60 MPH
72H 28/0600Z 22.4N 54.5W 50 KT 60 MPH
96H 29/0600Z 24.0N 56.0W 55 KT 65 MPH
120H 30/0600Z 25.5N 57.0W 55 KT 65 MPH

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Forecaster Kelly