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#542883 (Received by flhurricane at: 10:47 PM 14.Sep.2012)
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HURRICANE NADINE DISCUSSION NUMBER 15
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL142012
1100 PM AST FRI SEP 14 2012

NADINE HAS GOTTEN BETTER ORGANIZED OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS...WITH
THE CORE CONVECTION BECOMING MORE SYMMETRICAL AND MICROWAVE IMAGERY
SHOWING THAT THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER IS LOCATED A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE
DEEP CONVECTION. SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES RANGE FROM 65 KT
FROM TAFB TO 77 KT FROM SAB AND THE UW-CIMSS ADT. GIVEN THAT SOME
TILT STILL APPEARS TO EXIST IN THE CIRCULATION...THE INITIAL
INTENSITY WILL BE BASED ON THE MORE CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE FOR THIS
ADVISORY. SOUTHWESTERLY VERTICAL SHEAR OF 25 TO 30 KT IS AFFECTING
NADINE...AND THIS MODERATE TO STRONG SHEAR IS FORECAST TO CONTINUE
FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. GIVEN THIS MARGINAL ENVIRONMENT...ONLY
MINIMAL STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST IN THE SHORT TERM. LATE IN THE
PERIOD...THE CYCLONE WILL BE MOVING OVER COOLER WATERS...WHICH IN
COMBINATION WITH EVEN STRONGER SHEAR SHOULD LEAD TO GRADUAL
WEAKENING. THE NEW NHC INTENSITY FORECAST IS CLOSE TO THE DECAY
SHIPS MODEL THROUGH 72 HOURS AND TRENDS TOWARD THE LGEM BY DAY 5.

THE INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS 025/12...AS NADINE IS MOVING AROUND
THE NORTHWESTERN SIDE OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE. THE CYCLONE WILL
ENTER THE MID-LATITUDE WESTERLIES WITHIN 24 HOURS...WHICH SHOULD
RESULT IN A QUICK EASTWARD MOTION UNTIL ABOUT DAY 3. A SLOWER
MOTION TOWARD THE NORTHEAST IS EXPECTED AT DAYS 4 AND 5 AS AN
UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH APPROACHES FROM THE WEST. THE GLOBAL MODEL
GUIDANCE IS IN GENERALLY GOOD AGREEMENT ON THIS SCENARIO...WHILE
THE REGIONAL HURRICANE MODELS APPEAR TO BE OUTLIERS AT THIS TIME.
THE NHC FORECAST IS LARGELY AN UPDATE OF THE PREVIOUS ONE...BUT
WITH A FASTER FORWARD SPEED THROUGH 72 HOURS. THE NEW NHC TRACK IS
VERY CLOSE TO A BLEND OF THE GFS...ECMWF...UKMET...AND THE GEFS
ENSEMBLE MEAN...AND LIES NEAR THE MIDDLE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE.

NADINE MARKS THE THIRD-EARLIEST FORMATION OF AN EIGHTH HURRICANE FOR
THE SEASON IN THE ATLANTIC BASIN...BEHIND 1893 AND 2005.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 15/0300Z 30.0N 52.8W 65 KT 75 MPH
12H 15/1200Z 30.8N 51.4W 70 KT 80 MPH
24H 16/0000Z 31.2N 48.7W 70 KT 80 MPH
36H 16/1200Z 31.1N 45.5W 70 KT 80 MPH
48H 17/0000Z 31.2N 42.1W 70 KT 80 MPH
72H 18/0000Z 33.0N 36.0W 65 KT 75 MPH
96H 19/0000Z 35.5N 33.0W 60 KT 70 MPH
120H 20/0000Z 37.5N 31.5W 50 KT 60 MPH

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FORECASTER BRENNAN