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Jeanne landfalls on Puerto Rico - Ivan Holding at Cat 4
      #27698 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:04 PM

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7:00PM
Pressure down to 931 MB, windspeed being held at 135, but may respond to the pressure drop soon. 105miles south of mobile bay.

Near downtown Mobile along the bay storm surge may be as high as 16 feet.

6:30PM
Ongoing monitoring continues...

4:54PM
Tornado reported on the ground in Panama City, captured by video from wjhg's tower cam. (Yes Jason Kelly's station)
2 people reported killed by tornado..

5PM advisory out for Ivan, pressure to 933, winds remain same but probably will ramp up to follow the pressure drop. It has responded to the warm eddy it was over, winds may go up but it seems likely as a cat 4 landfall now.


Wave hights of 42-50 ft (Fourty-Two to Fifty feet) were recorded
at a buoy 75 miles south of Dauphin Island.

Good Luck All!

4:42PM
Hurricane Watches up for the southeastern Bahama islands for Jeanne.

4:30PM
Recon reports a pressure of 933mb, it has gotten stronger since 2pm.

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Looks to be stronger...


Original Update
Jeanne has made landfall in Puerto Rico as a strong Tropical Storm.

Meanwhile...

Hurricane Ivan is maintaining itself strength wise as it moves closer to the Gulf coast. We are watching the track extremely close.

Movement of Ivan appears to be almost due north right now... Aircraft recon reports pressure down 2mb to 937 from the 2pm advisory.



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FlaRebel
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Re: Jeanne landfalls on Puerto Rico - Ivan Holding at Cat 4 [Re: MikeC]
      #27703 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:22 PM

I am afraid we may see a VERY strong Cat IV or possibly a V at land fall. Ivan is really intensifying.

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Re: Jeanne landfalls on Puerto Rico - Ivan Holding at Cat 4 [Re: MikeC]
      #27704 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:24 PM

I don't think it will be a cat 5 (less than 10% chance), conditions aren't good enough for it. It will hold around what it is now. Recon reports are key to figuring out what it's really doing in there.

Pressure has dropped down to 937 according to the latest vortex message.



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Re: Jeanne landfalls on Puerto Rico - Ivan Holding at Cat 4 [Re: MikeC]
      #27705 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:27 PM

Also, Jeanne had a remarkably well-defined eye on the radar in the hours leading to landfall, especially for a tropical storm. It's clustered now, but I have a feeling this thing will really strengthen as long as Ivan keeps his distance.

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Re: Jeanne landfalls on Puerto Rico - Ivan Holding at Cat 4 [Re: MikeC]
      #27706 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:28 PM

Speaking of Recon, when should we expect another report. I agree that it will not make cat 5, but it does look to be strengthening.

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Frank P
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Re: Jeanne landfalls on Puerto Rico - Ivan Holding at Cat 4 [Re: MikeC]
      #27707 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:29 PM

watching radar loops, he looks almost due north right now, I can't see much westernly component in the last 30 minutes....

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Re: Jeanne landfalls on Puerto Rico - Ivan Holding at Cat 4 [Re: Frank P]
      #27708 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:32 PM

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/gmex-wv-loop.html


steering looks like its gone.


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Re: Jeanne landfalls on Puerto Rico - Ivan Holding at Cat 4 [Re: Frank P]
      #27709 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:32 PM

Frank, i would recommend you clear out of there right away!!

Why chance it?


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Re: Jeanne landfalls on Puerto Rico - Ivan Holding at Cat 4 [Re: Frank P]
      #27710 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:35 PM

Hey Frank,

Radar's weird like that. Look at the big picture. I know you have this loop linked, but you can see the general trend. Smoothing the track, it's about 350. Looks like a star thingy in the eye at the last frame:

SSD Visible

Bust open that Crown baby.

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Re: Jeanne landfalls on Puerto Rico - Ivan Holding at Cat 4 [Re: B33R]
      #27711 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:35 PM

This sat loop only goes until 1745z, but I don't see ANY northerly movement...

Frank..GO!

Edit...looks like Steve beat me to it, and his loop goes to 1815...

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Edited by LI Phil (Wed Sep 15 2004 02:37 PM)


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Frank P
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Re: Jeanne landfalls on Puerto Rico - Ivan Holding at Cat 4 [Re: B33R]
      #27712 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:37 PM

my primary concern is storm surge, and winds out of the south.... as long as I'm assured it will be to the west of me I'm not going to get the worst of it... hopefully...

thanks


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Re: Jeanne landfalls on Puerto Rico - Ivan Holding at Cat 4 [Re: Frank P]
      #27713 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:38 PM

You would be in the worst possible spot Frank. Do you mean East?

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Re: Jeanne landfalls on Puerto Rico - Ivan Holding at Cat 4 [Re: Frank P]
      #27714 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:44 PM

I know the view on radar is skewed this far out, but isn't this about where the NHC track starts the NNE turn? It could be just a wobble, but in the last few radar frames it does seem to be leaning to the right. But it might be a couple more hours before we can see a real trend.

Bill


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local update [Re: FlaRebel]
      #27715 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:45 PM

Just had a tornado watch issued; looks like some very strong rainbands will be here shortly. Winds are now gusting to a good 30mph or so. Just now beginning to rain at my house. ALL Shelters in Mobile are now CLOSED officially per local TV reports. I'm not sure about electricity, but well before Frederic came on shore in '79 they turned the power off.

Right now my prayer, besides survival, is that Ivan does not get any stronger !!


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Frank P
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Re: Jeanne landfalls on Puerto Rico - Ivan Holding at Cat 4 [Re: FlaRebel]
      #27716 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:48 PM

FlaReb, I sit corrected... you are exactly right EAST IS THE KEY for me...

Bil, I hope you are seening the same thing I'm seeing on radar, it more updated than the sat pixs by a good 20-30 minutes... I think this is kinda cutting in close on my part but I still have options available.. appreciate everyones concern greatly... would feel bad if I abandoned my neighbors...


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Frank... [Re: Frank P]
      #27717 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:51 PM

don't know if this will be of any help regarding the surge...worth a look-see.

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Justin in Miami
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Re: local update [Re: mbfly]
      #27718 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:53 PM

MB that is a tornado warning...must be one in those very Red cells coming ashore in your county.

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Re: Jeanne landfalls on Puerto Rico - Ivan Holding at Cat 4 [Re: MikeC]
      #27719 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:54 PM

Sitting here in Santa Rosa county between milton and pace. moderate rain and gusts maybe up to 30 MPH. nothing big yet but obviously will change soon. channel 3 just reported that the navarre pier is collapsing. good luck to everyone and stay safe!!!

docjoe


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Re: local update [Re: Justin in Miami]
      #27720 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:56 PM

noticed that while I was typing the last post. looks to be just off shore south of gulf shores or so, headed nw toward foley.

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Re: Jeanne landfalls on Puerto Rico - Ivan Holding at Cat 4 [Re: jth]
      #27721 - Wed Sep 15 2004 02:57 PM

Recon is still out there, looks like they are in the SE quadrant now. The last vortex message was about an hour ago, might be a while before they send another one. .

Bill


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