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OcalaKT
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Re: se wv loopy [Re: Steve H1]
      #49902 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:29 PM

http://www.weatherunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200512_5day.html

Link to five day forecast path. Still very wide cone, covering most of northern florida.


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schmoo
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Re: se wv loopy [Re: Random Chaos]
      #49903 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:30 PM

Since people are talking about Elena, here's the track:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1985/ELENA/track.gif
(purple = Cat 3)





eeeew..;i don't like elena
but looks like the panhandle is in sights again

sorry...shouldn't post without more informative info
won't do it again

Edited by schmoo (Thu Aug 25 2005 11:31 PM)


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jbmusic
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Re: se wv loopy [Re: Random Chaos]
      #49904 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:30 PM

Was Elana the one that just meandered in the gulf for several days?

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Big Red Machine
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Re: se wv loopy [Re: Ron Basso]
      #49905 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:30 PM

Sorry Ron I may have made an error putting in the url. You may need to copy and paste this.

http://www.easternuswx.com/bb/uploads/post-491-1125025748.gif


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wxman007
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After a long Hiatus... [Re: Ryan]
      #49906 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:32 PM

I'm back...there has been a lot going on here professionally here at WJHG that has kept me from posting, but I am going to try to resume getting on here and seeing if I can add a little something to the already sterling discussions from the other mets on here.

Again, I apologize for my absence (not that I was missed much) and am glad to be home!

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Jason Kelley


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Steve H1
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Re: se wv loopy [Re: Random Chaos]
      #49907 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:32 PM

WW@, the idea is that if Katrina moves out quick into the GOM off the SW Coast, it may get picked up and move back NE to Tampa then cut back across the state towards JAX. At least the right turn will happen, not a wide re-curve as the 18Z globals and 0z tropicals were showing. But its really all up in the air. Tomorrow MAY bring some clarity.

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hurricane expert
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Re: Hurricane Katrina Landfalls near the Dade/Broward County Line [Re: Clark]
      #49909 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:35 PM

What are the chances for this system to hook back to the NE if it slows down or if it gains speed.

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Margie
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Re: se wv loopy [Re: ralphfl]
      #49910 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:36 PM

You know part of that convection has stayed put over the east coast, and there is now a large area, around Homestead, with 10 in of rain storm totals.

Also...does it look like that strong SE band is starting to drop SW and a little away from the center, as the storm loses strength and organization, and the COC is starting to go a little more W?

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Katrina's Surge: http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/Katrinas_surge_contents.asp

Edited by Margie (Thu Aug 25 2005 11:43 PM)


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ralphfl
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Re: After a long Hiatus... [Re: wxman007]
      #49911 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:37 PM

Quote:

I'm back...there has been a lot going on here professionally here at WJHG that has kept me from posting, but I am going to try to resume getting on here and seeing if I can add a little something to the already sterling discussions from the other mets on here.

Again, I apologize for my absence (not that I was missed much) and am glad to be home!





Will you add your thoughts to the post above who like a few other casters not mets but casters are thinking of a NE turn back to tampa.When i see 1 model out of 50 that even think anything near that.What are your thoughts.


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Frank P
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Re: After a long Hiatus... [Re: wxman007]
      #49912 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:37 PM

nice to have you back Jason... radar shows Katrina still moving off to the sw or wsw.... and getting close to the GOM... once in the GOM the NHC has it tracking due west for a short period.. this will be interesting to see if it indeed behaves as they predict.... for what I can tell on radar she could be in the GOM in a couple of hours at the earliest....

http://radar.weather.gov/radar/loop/DS.p19r0/si.kamx.shtml


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Random Chaos
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Re: se wv loopy [Re: Margie]
      #49913 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:38 PM

Quote:

You know part of that convection has stayed put over the east coast, and there is now a large area, around Homestead, with 10 of rain storm totals.




I'm seeing 1 or 2 pink pixels (12" rain totals) on this just landward of the coast. They are directly under the green of the Flood Warning. You might want to zoom to see them.
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/amx_NTP_lp.shtml


Also, the eye is looking more ragged now. It is starting to fill in on the east side. If it holds out just a couple hours more it will still have a well defined eye moving into the gulf, but I'm not sure that will happen now.

Edited by Random Chaos (Thu Aug 25 2005 11:40 PM)


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Clark
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Re: After a long Hiatus... [Re: wxman007]
      #49914 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:38 PM

Welcome back, Jason!

I've posted the Thursday night update to my forecast in the Met blogs; also available on the front page below the main news item. It is largely an update of the Tuesday night forecast for intensity purposes and reflects a substantial shift upward in intensity at second landfall. I owe Jason some thanks for some collaboration earlier this evening -- unbeknownst to him, it helped my tennis game at the same time! -- and this is largely a reflection of his thinking as well (as far as I know).

This is going to be a long weekend, so stay tuned.

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twizted sizter
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Re: se wv loopy [Re: scottsvb]
      #49915 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:39 PM

Yeah I thought that's where you were going with things...was kind of surprised she didn't get further south & I wonder if maybe more of a push east will happen now.

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Frank P
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Re: After a long Hiatus... [Re: Frank P]
      #49916 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:39 PM

its now only 16 miles away from the GOM, and is moving at least 8 mph, perhaps as much as 10.... certainly no slowdown is yet apparent

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Colleen A.
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Re: se wv loopy *Killed -- Sent to Graveyard* [Re: ralphfl]
      #49917 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:46 PM

This post was sent to the Hurricane Graveyard

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Jeffmidtown
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Re: se wv loopy [Re: Colleen A.]
      #49920 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:52 PM

Here in Atlanta for the first time that I can remember, all 4 TV mets are giving decidedly different forecasts, with either a track through central GA after 2nd landfall, but the met from Fox 5 talked about a landfall somewhere close to Pensacola as close to a Cat 3. If that's the case, that would be eeirly reminicent to the track that Cindy took, fooling everyone and tracking to the west and hammering Atlanta with tornadoes and a bunch of rain. Right now, I just dont know where or who to trust and the business I'm in (limousine industry) is dependant upon Hatsfield Airport staying open....So any guidance would be greatly helpful.

Also, How unusual is it for a hurricane to actually maintain or even gain strength while it is over land?

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Edited by Jeffmidtown (Thu Aug 25 2005 11:59 PM)


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twizted sizter
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Re: se wv loopy [Re: Jeffmidtown]
      #49925 - Thu Aug 25 2005 11:56 PM

My best advice is wait & see...that's what we're all doing.

As far as maintaining strength inland...well Charley & Jeanne are prime examples from last year...not their original landfall strength but still hurricane status well inland.


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ralphfl
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Re: se wv loopy [Re: Random Chaos]
      #49927 - Fri Aug 26 2005 12:00 AM

Btw before i go to bed (and make many happy ) how is this storm in size compared to charlie and francis Dennis seems smaller to me.


Anyway ill read when i get back from the store.


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Margie
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Re: se wv loopy [Re: Jeffmidtown]
      #49929 - Fri Aug 26 2005 12:05 AM

You know all that convection that formed S of the keys has already started to be pulled into the feeder bands the last couple hours. I guess that is what is keeping the E coast so wet. It is taking longer for that convection on the east to slide across the state than the COC, but when it is all into the GOM, maybe in another six hours, then Katrina will be cooking.

Sheesh, looks like in another hour, the center'll start to be offshore.

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Ron Basso
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Re: After a long Hiatus... [Re: Clark]
      #49930 - Fri Aug 26 2005 12:06 AM

Clark, very nice informative blog on the future of Katrina. It looks like you're pretty consistent with the NHC. To me, the storm so far has been closely following the 18Z GFDL which this run overall is in line with your thoughts.

Being that the storm appears to be only a couple of hours from the GOM, and still at 70 mph, it seems likely that it will remain just below Hurricane strength & then have ample opportunity to start the development cycle again. It does look like some dry air has intruded into the north half of the storm, with very little rain from Alligator Alley northward, so perhaps its lost some steam. My main question is, I live on the Nature Coast about 50 miles north of St Pete - do u think there's much chance for Katrina to turn NE prior my latitude (28.5 N)?

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