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Invest 94L just northeast of the ABC islands in the Caribbean moving west, 20% development chance. Another area near the Cabo Verde islands has a 20% chance to develop over the next 7 days.
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Activity Again
      Sat Aug 21 2004 08:11 AM

Monday early AM update
Still no invest up on the wave near 27w, though it is trending toward organization. It's should continue to move slowly westward, and is likely our next named system. As Ed has mentioned, Danielle's remnant low has continued to persist and is throwing convection again as it is starting a second recurvature into the deepening mid-oceanic trough. It has a slight chance to regenerate. At this point the only other convincing concern for the week we're entering is the chance of development off the east coast from stalled front remains, under the strong ridge forecast to develop over the northeastern U.S. this week.
It is quite likely that we will have an active system by midweek.
HF

Sunday Update - 12:30AM
Caribbean wave looks like it may not survive the shear - not exactly unexpected. What was unexpected was the lack of movement with the strong wave SE of the Cape Verde Islands - system hasn't moved much in over 12 hours, so scratch the idea about rapid development. I still think that it will get there, but at a much slower pace - the GFS did move it slowly for a few days. The GFS also projected that a strong mid-Atlantic trough would bisect the Atlantic ridge and the new cyclone would turn north into this weakness in the ridge in a couple of days. The UKMET projects that the trough will not be as strong and that the ridge will hold - and moves the new system generally westward - I tend to favor the latter option. Earlier on Saturday, Danielle became an open wave and advisories are no longer being issued.

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Looks like the short quiet period is about to end. Seldom have I ever commented on a sure thing, however, the wave currently exiting the west coast of Africa fits this category. It has excellent structure and could reach Tropical Storm strength before the weekend is over. The GFS, which has done well with tropical systems this year, intensifies this wave to hurricane strength by mid-week. The system will encounter some shear for the next 24 to 36 hours, but after that, the green light for rapid development is on. The system should track west northwest - perhaps even briefly northwest for the next couple of days. The GFS takes the system more northwesterly, but upper air patterns suggest that an eventual track to the west northwest or even west should prevail. The system has the potential to become a large hurricane.

An active tropical wave has lifted out of the ITCZ in the last 48 hours and is currently moving to the west northwest at 15 knots in the eastern Caribbean Sea. This system has a good convective envelope that has held together overnight and it has a possible low level circulation near 14.4N 68.4W at 21/11Z. It faces some shear ahead of it. This shear should peak on Sunday and then slowly decline. If the system can slowly develop, it should move toward the northern Yucatan peninsula and then move more toward the northwest later in the week - perhaps toward the south Texas coast. Keep in mind that the development probability on this system is still rather low at the moment.

Tropical Depression Danielle is still around - drifting in the central Atlantic. Danielle may continue to drift for quite a few more days and has a small chance to briefly regain TS strength, but her ultimate fate is northward.

It looks like the week ahead will soon turn busy.
ED


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Edited by HanKFranK (Mon Aug 23 2004 12:38 AM)

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* Activity Again Ed DunhamAdministrator Sat Aug 21 2004 08:11 AM
. * * Re: Activity Again Anonymous   Mon Aug 23 2004 10:56 AM
. * * Re: Activity Again James88   Mon Aug 23 2004 11:17 AM
. * * Re: Activity Again Rabbit   Mon Aug 23 2004 12:06 PM
. * * Re: Activity Again James88   Mon Aug 23 2004 03:10 PM
. * * is the cape verde way a real slow mover? bobbi   Mon Aug 23 2004 03:29 PM
. * * Re: is the cape verde way a real slow mover? Keith234   Mon Aug 23 2004 03:48 PM
. * * Re: is the cape verde way a real slow mover? Steve   Mon Aug 23 2004 04:00 PM
. * * Re: is the cape verde way a real slow mover? Frank P   Mon Aug 23 2004 04:50 PM
. * * Re: is the cape verde way a real slow mover? LONNY307   Mon Aug 23 2004 05:24 PM
. * * Re: is the cape verde way a real slow mover? Steve   Mon Aug 23 2004 05:34 PM
. * * longtracker season HanKFranK   Mon Aug 23 2004 07:14 PM
. * * Re: may not be a fish Tropics Guy   Mon Aug 23 2004 08:08 PM
. * * Re: may not be a fish bobbi   Tue Aug 24 2004 09:10 AM
. * * Re: may not be a fish Hardcore   Tue Aug 24 2004 10:19 AM
. * * Subtropical System and Frank Keith234   Tue Aug 24 2004 10:31 AM
. * * Re: Subtropical System and Frank scottsvb   Tue Aug 24 2004 12:32 PM
. * * 50/50 probability on fishing with 96L per models... still early Frank P   Tue Aug 24 2004 01:04 PM
. * * Re: 50/50 probability on fishing with 96L per models... still early Anonymous   Tue Aug 24 2004 01:12 PM
. * * Re: 50/50 probability on fishing with 96L per models... still early Frank P   Tue Aug 24 2004 01:19 PM
. * * Re: 50/50 probability on fishing with 96L per models... still early Anonymous   Tue Aug 24 2004 01:32 PM
. * * this is reasonable Frank P   Tue Aug 24 2004 01:26 PM
. * * Re: this is reasonable joepub1   Tue Aug 24 2004 01:40 PM
. * * Re: this is reasonable Anonymous   Tue Aug 24 2004 01:48 PM
. * * Re: this is reasonable rmbjoe1954   Tue Aug 24 2004 02:00 PM
. * * frances forthcoming/southeast coast HanKFranK   Tue Aug 24 2004 02:55 PM
. * * Re: frances forthcoming/southeast coast Cycloneye   Tue Aug 24 2004 03:03 PM
. * * Re: 96L very close to being a TD Tropics Guy   Tue Aug 24 2004 03:10 PM
. * * Re: 96L very close to being a TD EriktheFled   Tue Aug 24 2004 04:26 PM
. * * Re: 96L very close to being a TD-not at 5:00 LI Phil   Tue Aug 24 2004 04:52 PM
. * * Re: 96L very close to being a TD-not at 5:00 Clark   Tue Aug 24 2004 07:31 PM
. * * Re: 96L very close to being a TD-at 11:00? Tropics Guy   Tue Aug 24 2004 08:57 PM
. * * Re: 96L very close to being a TD-at 11:00? LI Phil   Tue Aug 24 2004 09:12 PM
. * * Re: 96L very close to being a TD-at 11:00? Tropics Guy   Tue Aug 24 2004 10:01 PM
. * * TD 6 Jamiewx   Tue Aug 24 2004 10:11 PM
. * * Re: TD 6 *DELETED* danielwAdministrator   Tue Aug 24 2004 10:35 PM
. * * Re: TD 6 HanKFranK   Tue Aug 24 2004 11:02 PM
. * * TD Advisory #1 recmod   Tue Aug 24 2004 10:27 PM
. * * Re: TD 6 Discussion #1 recmod   Tue Aug 24 2004 10:32 PM
. * * we have T.D. 6 Jamiewx   Tue Aug 24 2004 09:45 PM
. * * Re: we have T.D. 6 LI Phil   Tue Aug 24 2004 09:51 PM
. * * Re: we have T.D. 6 EriktheFled   Tue Aug 24 2004 10:58 PM
. * * Re: 96L very close to being a TD-not at 5:00 Kevin   Tue Aug 24 2004 05:26 PM
. * * Back Kevin   Tue Aug 24 2004 05:24 PM
. * * Re: 96L very close to being a TD-not at 5:00 Steve   Tue Aug 24 2004 05:16 PM
. * * Re: Subtropical System and Frank SirCane   Tue Aug 24 2004 12:31 PM
. * * may not be a landlubber either HanKFranK   Tue Aug 24 2004 12:34 AM
. * * Re: is the cape verde way a real slow mover? Frank P   Mon Aug 23 2004 05:33 PM
. * * Quick post from the 'sick bed.' LI Phil   Mon Aug 23 2004 05:10 PM
. * * Re: Activity Again Cycloneye   Sat Aug 21 2004 10:01 AM
. * * Re: Activity Again danielwAdministrator   Sat Aug 21 2004 10:54 AM
. * * Carribean activity this am Frank P   Sat Aug 21 2004 11:34 AM
. * * cape verde system in the works HanKFranK   Sat Aug 21 2004 11:43 AM
. * * Re: cape verde system in the works Frank P   Sat Aug 21 2004 11:53 AM
. * * Re: cape verde system in the works Gulf Coast   Sat Aug 21 2004 11:55 AM
. * * Re: cape verde system in the works Frank P   Sat Aug 21 2004 12:18 PM
. * * Re: cape verde system in the works LI Phil   Sat Aug 21 2004 03:49 PM
. * * Re: Charley damage/ Cape verde system Tropics Guy   Sat Aug 21 2004 09:06 PM
. * * Re: Charley damage/ Cape verde system GuppieGrouper   Sat Aug 21 2004 09:45 PM
. * * epac and mjo bobbi   Sun Aug 22 2004 11:33 AM
. * * Re: epac and mjo GuppieGrouper   Sun Aug 22 2004 12:15 PM
. * * Re: epac and mjo James88   Sun Aug 22 2004 03:33 PM
. * * Last dance with Frances? rmbjoe1954   Sun Aug 22 2004 04:20 PM
. * * Re: Last dance with Frances? James88   Sun Aug 22 2004 04:32 PM
. * * Is the wave dancing? LoisCane   Sun Aug 22 2004 06:37 PM
. * * Re: Is the wave dancing? Ed DunhamAdministrator   Sun Aug 22 2004 10:22 PM
. * * Re: Is the wave dancing? Keith234   Mon Aug 23 2004 08:07 AM
. * * 96L invest for east atlantic wave Cycloneye   Mon Aug 23 2004 08:39 AM
. * * Re: 96L invest for east atlantic wave Anonymous   Mon Aug 23 2004 09:41 AM
. * * Re: 96L invest for east atlantic wave Cycloneye   Mon Aug 23 2004 09:47 AM
. * * Re: 96L invest for east atlantic wave Anonymous   Mon Aug 23 2004 09:10 AM
. * * Re: 96L invest for east atlantic wave Keith234   Mon Aug 23 2004 09:13 AM
. * * new wave HanKFranK   Sat Aug 21 2004 11:25 AM

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