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andy1tom
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Re: Other Things of Interest [Re: Storm Cooper]
      #18624 - Tue Aug 10 2004 06:01 PM

LOL Yes it is.. stocked my kit this morning to avoid the crowd.. good thing cause the store was packed. if the warnings go up don't they have to open up shelters? if so all the shelters are schools. also noticed that with the models seem to have landfall moved up about 6 hours. am i right on that? last nite they were saying late morning now it is early morning.

Edited by andy1tom (Tue Aug 10 2004 06:03 PM)


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Re: Other Things of Interest [Re: andy1tom]
      #18625 - Tue Aug 10 2004 06:04 PM

That is up to Bay county if and when they open but yes most are the schools.

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bonnie for the moment [Re: Unregistered User]
      #18626 - Tue Aug 10 2004 06:06 PM

Bonnie is going through "pulsing"....fighting the shear, and then re-flaring CDO. I think she is in the middle of re-charging. Wonder, however, what the experts on our board, the HankFranks and Phil, and our other moderators thiink about Bonnie.

Any of you of the opinion she will dissipate?...

I no longer believe the Florida panhandle scenario. It seems too far to the east, though I only have a gut feel that the front isn't strong enough to whip it over there in time. The tables will be set for Bonnie in about 12 hours.

What about the small eye?....any one have a good understanding of whether that implies greater resiliency to drier air or not?....

Bonnie will continue to be unpredictable....

Charley will be in the gulf by Friday, and in Mobile early next week....


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Re: TD#3 Upgraded to Tropical Storm Charley [Re: rmbjoe1954]
      #18627 - Tue Aug 10 2004 06:07 PM

Poor initialization maybe. .Also new data helps quite a bit.. Its not uncommon for these models to fluctuate especially this far out..

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bobbi
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Other Loops of Interest [Re: Storm Cooper]
      #18628 - Tue Aug 10 2004 06:08 PM

Take a look at this loop. I find it amazing if you study it.

Looks to me like the infamous trough is already trying to grab Charley and ignoring Bonnie. Not saying Charley will lift NW suddenly but its trying to grab it.. doesnt seem to be doing much for Bonnie.

http://orca.rsmas.miami.edu/wximages/jet/1_05/anis.html

ps..u can see many influences on this site that are invisible on other sites


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Re: bonnie for the moment [Re: rickonboat]
      #18629 - Tue Aug 10 2004 06:14 PM

>>> Wonder, however, what the experts on our board, the HankFranks and Phil, and our other moderators thiink about Bonnie.

Excuse me, did you just call me an "expert"? LOL! I'm slowly learning, yes, but an expert? Heh. No, I couldn't make any more than a half-as--ed guess. Maybe the Rabbit could tell you...he must be back in his burrow for now.

I'll say, PCB, winds 85 kts, Thursday morning at 7:42. How's that?

BTW, SSD is awfully slow getting the Dvorak's out

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Edited by LI Phil (Tue Aug 10 2004 06:19 PM)


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Re: bonnie for the moment [Re: LI Phil]
      #18630 - Tue Aug 10 2004 06:26 PM

A part of the AFD from Tally....

SHORT TERM (TONIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT)...FORECAST WILL BE
BASED ON THE OFFICIAL FORECAST TRACK FROM THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO THE GFS MODEL. BONNIE SHOULD CONTINUE
TO LIFT TO THE NORTH OVERNIGHT BEFORE TURNING TO THE NORTHEAST AND
ACCELERATING WEDNESDAY AS DEEP LAYER SOUTHWEST FLOW INCREASES AHEAD
OF A DIGGING TROUGH OVER THE EASTERN U.S. LATEST PROJECTED LANDFALL
IS IN THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE BETWEEN 12Z AND 18Z THURSDAY AS A
MINIMAL HURRICANE. WATCHES MAY BE POSTED FOR ALL OR A PORTION OF OUR
COASTAL COUNTIES ON THE NEXT FORECAST PACKAGE. GRID POPS THE NEXT
FEW DAYS ARE GENERALLY IN LINE WITH LATEST MOS POPS WHICH ARE IN THE
LIKELY RANGE. BONNIE CONTINUES TO PULL TO THE NORTHEAST THURSDAY
NIGHT WITH A FRONT ENTERING AND CUTTING MIDWAY ACROSS OUR CWA BY 12Z
FRI.

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Old Sailor
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Re: Other Loops of Interest [Re: bobbi]
      #18631 - Tue Aug 10 2004 06:30 PM

There is a forming low east of North Florida looking at the IR it maybe pulling Charley more to the north, wait and see what Recon Finds.

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Re: bonnie for the moment [Re: Storm Cooper]
      #18632 - Tue Aug 10 2004 06:35 PM

Air Recon: Bonnie not as storng this afternoon.
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URNT12 KNHC 101728
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 10/1728Z
B. 24 DEG 25 MIN N
90 DEG 38 MIN W
C. 850 MB 1470 M
D. 40 KT
E. 055 DEG 13 NM
F. 146 DEG 38 KT
G. 043 DEG 053 NM
H. 1005 MB
I. 18 C/ 1538 M
J. 24 C/ 1539 M
K. 16 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 12345/08
O. 0.1/5 NM
P. AF977 0502A BONNIE OB 04
MAX FL WIND 38 KT NE QUAD 1702Z.

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Re: bonnie for the moment [Re: Old Sailor]
      #18633 - Tue Aug 10 2004 06:39 PM

Saw that... she has her issues and only time will tell!

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Re: bonnie for the moment [Re: Storm Cooper]
      #18634 - Tue Aug 10 2004 06:51 PM

Shes looks more subtropical and unlikely to form into anything .


http://www.hardcoreweather.com


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Anonymous
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Re: TD#3 Upgraded to Tropical Storm Charley [Re: MikeC]
      #18635 - Tue Aug 10 2004 07:00 PM

Bonnie appears to be making its move to the northeast !


http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconus.html


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bobbi
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does anyone know where the planes are re: charley [Re: Anonymous]
      #18636 - Tue Aug 10 2004 07:02 PM

???

dont see her making a move til she crosses the line
watching tho


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Bonni [Re: Anonymous]
      #18637 - Tue Aug 10 2004 07:08 PM

She's not moving NE, the thunderstorms are coming back around her giving her that appearance. Still moving NNW.

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Anonymous
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PRESIDENT N PANHANDLE [Re: bobbi]
      #18638 - Tue Aug 10 2004 07:08 PM

what a day, President Bush (also TWC is sending someone to PCB tonight!). Bush is schedule to be Panama City this afternoon..... good timin... he can tour before and after storm damage!!!! looks like there goin to be alot of water in the panhandle in the next 72 hrs+.

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Anonymous
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Re: Bonni [Re: jth]
      #18639 - Tue Aug 10 2004 07:10 PM

URNT12 KNHC 101846
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 10/1846Z
B. 24 DEG 28 MIN N
90 DEG 38 MIN W
C. 850 MB 1465 M
D. 35 KT
E. 135 DEG 26 NM
F. 233 DEG 43 KT
G. 135 DEG 012 NM
H. 1004 MB
I. 18 C/ 1524 M
J. 24 C/ 1507 M
K. 16 C/ NA
L. NA
M. NA
N. 12345/08
O. 0.1/5 NM
P. AF977 0502A BONNIE OB 09
MAX FL WIND 43 KT SE QUAD 1842Z.


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Anonymous
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Re: recon [Re: Anonymous]
      #18640 - Tue Aug 10 2004 07:12 PM

URNT11 KNHC 101854
97779 18544 30164 73000 57700 04017 56663 /4588
RMK AF966 0103A Charley OB 13


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Latest GFDL for Charlie [Re: Anonymous]
      #18641 - Tue Aug 10 2004 07:14 PM

This model has him clipping south FL out to open water and up the East coast.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cyclonephase/gfdl/charley03l/fcst/index.html


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Anonymous
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Re: Latest GFDL for Charlie [Re: FlaRebel]
      #18642 - Tue Aug 10 2004 07:18 PM

Quote:

This model has him clipping south FL out to open water and up the East coast.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cyclonephase/gfdl/charley03l/fcst/index.html




As long as he doesn't get into the north central gulf I will be happy


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Steve hirschb.
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Re: Latest GFDL for Charlie [Re: FlaRebel]
      #18643 - Tue Aug 10 2004 07:19 PM

That's a pretty big clip! uh....what's the intensity? Doesn't look like it will get too strong ifit follows that path.

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