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Weather Guru

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Loc: Winter Haven, FL
Re: To MR UNHappy [Re: Unregistered User]
      #29603 - Wed Sep 22 2004 01:19 PM

Just a quick comment from Polk County here - The support we got from local agencies was unbelievable. We had deputies who lost their homes still out helping deliever ice and water and helping the elderly clean up their yards.

I have heard a ton of complaints about FEMA but most of the complaints were from people who were looking for free handouts (in my opinion).

All in all, I finally saw a divided community come together to help each other in a time of need. Makes me proud to live in this Country.



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storm chaser

Re: To MR UNHappy [Re: Katie]
      #29605 - Wed Sep 22 2004 01:29 PM

I think different counties received different treatment. Voluisa (at least where I lived) was left out to dry!

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strom chaser

Re: To MR UNHappy [Re: storm chaser]
      #29606 - Wed Sep 22 2004 01:31 PM

meant to say were I LIVE, still live here. Sorry, I type to fast!

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Re: To MR UNHappy [Re: storm chaser]
      #29608 - Wed Sep 22 2004 01:44 PM

I know this is kinda off topic (sorry). Its great that Jeb Bush is allowing roofers from out of state to fix our roofs, however, keep in mind that your warranty will be basically worthless with an out of state roofer. If a leak develops or if something goes wrong later on with your roof, your out of state roofer may be long gone and I can guarantee you wont see them making service calls. I realize some people will have no choice, but just becareful. A roof is a huge investment, that should be done by someone locally. That way if you have any issues later, they can assist you. I am still waiting for a check from my insurance company, suppose to be here Friday. I am fortunate I have been able to get estimates, you just have to persistant.

Hope Jeanne does get to close, plastic is the only thing holding out the elements and the winds these days have made me a little anxious that I will need to have another temporary repair (I have had it repaired 3 x so far)..

Dream like you will live forever.. Live like there is no tommorow.. Darwin Rules !!

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Weather Master

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Loc: Central Florida
Re: To MR UNHappy [Re: Lake Toho - Kissimmee]
      #29610 - Wed Sep 22 2004 02:09 PM

does anyone else see a well defined LLC to the east of 93L?
(look on the last few frames; you can also see Lisa to the west being sheared)

Also, there are TS winds with the Ivan remnamts, all they need to do is close off the center for us to have 4 named storms

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mr. UnHappy

Re: To MR UNHappy [Re: Lake Toho - Kissimmee]
      #29612 - Wed Sep 22 2004 02:15 PM

Great point LT. I didn't know OOS roofers were allowed to fix roofs here yet though. A quote:

"The order allows "certified . . . registered, general, building or residential" contractors to repair roofs. The order covers nine counties affected by Charley, including Polk, Osceola, Orange, Seminole and Volusia.

Florida has some of the strictest contractor-licensing requirements in the nation. Trade groups have also been pushing the governor to grant temporary licenses to contractors from states with similarly tough requirements, so they, too .

Wednesday's executive order did not address that issue."

Does a roof warranty cover Hurricane damage at all? At this point I'm afraid we SHOULD let LICENSED OOS contractors repair roofs or suffer worse damage.

I certainly would want a warranty though.

Mr. U.

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Weather Guru

Posts: 136
Loc: Osceola County
Re: To MR UNHappy [Re: mr. UnHappy]
      #29616 - Wed Sep 22 2004 02:28 PM

*continuing offtopic, sorry, but it needs to be said*

Just as a storm brings out the best in people, it also brings out the worst in people. Those strict regulations have saved thousands of people, from the elderly to the down-on-hard-times, from being swindled or out and out robbed by con men. These people will seek out the vulnerable, pull up in a truck, and offer a deal that can't be refused in exchange for cash up front, for example. Or they'll perform the work, charge exorbitant prices, and leave sub-standard results.

I hate to sound like such a prude, but these things are generally for our protection (as were the curfews). Having an in-state license means they are held accountable for their work, and will follow building codes with their repairs. Yes, out-of-state contractors would be a welcome aid, especially if they have similar hurricane codes. While I don't think the cops had a right to threaten family members helping out, I certainly can't question the overall stance.

On topic: I still hold to my belief that the ridge is being overstated in the models, and Jeanne will start to slip back North and East. Looks like I'm about to get crowed though

[witty phrase here]

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Re: To MR UNHappy [Re: mom2als]
      #29631 - Wed Sep 22 2004 03:07 PM

You want a roofer? 321-753-2373...........out of Palm Bay but willing to go on the road, Wayne's Roofs and has a combined experience of over 25 years this guy and his dad and their hired crew.

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Re: To MR UNHappy [Re: leetdan]
      #29633 - Wed Sep 22 2004 03:13 PM

I think you can look for roofers in states like GA or SC or Alabama that understand and have hurricane code roofing styles. Forget any CA roofers as they have no clue about this kind of weather.

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Weather Watcher

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Loc: Simpsonville, SC
Re: To MR UNHappy [Re: leetdan]
      #29640 - Wed Sep 22 2004 03:23 PM

From the 11:30 AM Outlook:


I notice that they haven't mentioned in the last few discussions that this is part of the remnants of Ivan. Sounds like they want to get away from that name entirely.

Looks to this untrained eye like the circulation is around 27N 88W which is just southeast of the convection.

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