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VandyBrad
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Re: Dennis Deepens [Re: Ricreig]
      #39831 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:04 PM

For those that were interested yesterday...

NASA has decided to leave the shuttle on the launch pad and is holding to its scheduled Wednesday launch.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/custom/space/orl-bk-shuttle070805,0,5120048.story?coll=orl-home-headlines

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pcola
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Re: Dennis Deepens [Re: VandyBrad]
      #39832 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:07 PM

I find it amazing that the NHC has not moved its track to the pandle more than 60 miles for 5 days. They seem to be doing a great job..though it does not look good for me.

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Re: Dennis Deepens [Re: pcola]
      #39833 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:08 PM

11 discussion here:http://www.crownweather.com/tropical.html

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Re: Dennis Deepens [Re: Ed in Va]
      #39834 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:10 PM

11 AM TRACK
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/144557.shtml?5day?large


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Lysis
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Re: Dennis Deepens [Re: Ed in Va]
      #39835 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:11 PM

If Dennis were to briefly achieve minimal Category 5 status just before landfall, would there be any way that we would know?

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Re: Dennis Deepens [Re: pcola]
      #39836 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:15 PM

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I find it amazing that the NHC has not moved its track to the pandle more than 60 miles for 5 days. They seem to be doing a great job..though it does not look good for me.


I agree, they have done a good job so far. Thier forecast has wiggled very little almost from day 1. The models have been all over the place,but even they have averaged out close to a similar track. If the forcast pans out as accurate, a lot of people have only a little more than a day and a half to CYOA and get their preparations completed and in some cases, 'outta Dodge' as well.

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Jamiewx
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Re: Dennis Deepens [Re: pcola]
      #39837 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:16 PM

"THE LATEST RADAR DATA ALSO SUGGESTS THAT Dennis MAY BE STARTING AN EYEWALL REPLACEMENT CYCLE...WHICH WOULD SUGGEST THAT Dennis HAS LIKELY PEAKED IN INTENSITY. "

From the 11am Discussion


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Re: Dennis Deepens [Re: Ricreig]
      #39838 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:17 PM

Actually if the forecast pans out, these people in the panhandle have had ample time to get their preparations in order, not just a day and a half. Unless they have been living with their head in the sand. NHC has had this track for a few days now..

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ftlaudbob
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Re: Dennis Deepens [Re: Ricreig]
      #39839 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:18 PM

I just heard that 60% of the locals in Key West are staying.I just don't understand that.

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Re: Dennis Deepens [Re: Ricreig]
      #39840 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:18 PM

Dennis is a monster! And still relatively compact with hurricane winds only out to 50 miles. It wouldnt be a surprise if Dennis breifly attains Cat5 status, but the indications of an ERC could put pay to that. Looks like nowhere in Cuba will escape untouched - either from the winds, or from the rain, or from the huge surge! Should be interesting to see what happens to the core when it crosses overland. I still think we'll see an expansion of the windfield, and a larger eyewall form.

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twizted sizter
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Key West [Re: ftlaudbob]
      #39843 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:22 PM

Some interviews showed them saying after last years evacs they felt it was crying wolf...foolish if you ask me...that place is only like 7 miles wide at it's widest...depending on how close Dennis gets it could be devestating to that area.

Love it down there.


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Lysis
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Re: Key West [Re: twizted sizter]
      #39844 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:23 PM

Why would the West Atlantic be under a Tropical Storm Warning and the extreme south eastern counties of Florida under a hurricane watch, while the west coast is under only a tropical storm watch, with no advisories for the adjacent waters whatsoever?

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Lisa NC
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Re: Dennis Deepens [Re: Rich B]
      #39845 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:23 PM

Does anyone know what the landscape is like where Dennis will cross Cuba? Is it normal for a hurricane to strengthen whille 1/3 of its mass is over land?

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G. J.
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Re: Key West [Re: twizted sizter]
      #39846 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:24 PM

Anyone here anything from friends, relatives, or through military channels how Gitmo has fared?

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Re: Dennis Deepens [Re: Lake Toho - Kissimmee]
      #39848 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:25 PM

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Actually if the forecast pans out, these people in the panhandle have had ample time to get their preparations in order, not just a day and a half. Unless they have been living with their head in the sand. NHC has had this track for a few days now..


It is also true that there are a substantial number of people that are blissfully ignorant until it is too late, OR, that choose to do the Osterich thing and bury their heads in the sand in the hopes that it will go away if they just ignore it long enough. Sad, but true. Denial kills.

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pcola
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Re: Dennis Deepens [Re: Ricreig]
      #39849 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:27 PM

Trust me...the people in the panhandle are preparing...it has been hard to get gas for 3 days....more are evacuating.....Ivan is a recent memory...

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Re: Key West [Re: Lysis]
      #39850 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:28 PM

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Why would the West Atlantic be under a Tropical Storm Warning and the extreme south eastern counties of Florida under a hurricane watch, while the west coast is under only a tropical storm watch, with no advisories for the adjacent waters whatsoever?


Relative position/distance from where the storm *is* at the moment. These warnings will shift and migrate as the storm moves.

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lilyv
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Re: Dennis Deepens [Re: Lake Toho - Kissimmee]
      #39851 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:30 PM

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Actually if the forecast pans out, these people in the panhandle have had ample time to get their preparations in order, not just a day and a half. Unless they have been living with their head in the sand. NHC has had this track for a few days now..



Yes, but I was in P'cola a month ago, and I was truly shocked at the extent of destruction that is still evident. An entire apartment complex near Sacred Heart is abandoned, for example. All over town there are blue tarps on houses, windows still in need of repair, awnings that are half off, businesses that never re-opened, and so on. They can prepare, but more damage piled ontop of the old damage makes this current situation much more dangerous. Add into the equation that the folks are really tired from working so hard to recover from Ivan. The good folks of the panhandle are in my thoughts and prayers.


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Katie
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Re: Key West [Re: Ricreig]
      #39852 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:31 PM

FOX news just said that the Keys will be getting a direct hit with winds at 150 mph...I sure hope they evacuated. Any idea on high tide and when he is suppose to cross over. I am just curious what kind of damage he can cause on our islands down there.

Yeah, people in the Panhandle aren't joking with him. My former boss in Pensacola is packing up the family and heading elsewhere. They lost their house in Ivan and don't want to be around if Dennis makes his way up there.


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doug
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Re: Dennis Deepens [Re: Rich B]
      #39853 - Fri Jul 08 2005 03:31 PM

The most interesting thing in the discussion was the comment about the deepening trough to the west and a couple of the models getting a handle on that: creating a slight deviation to the right in the solution...about 40 miles worth it looks like.

watching the water vapor suggests the jet is clearly now setting up cutting across the northern expense of the peninsula at the Big Bend area...this is the kind of thing which falls into my OOPS factor and if this is in fact deepening...well how many ways can we spell Charley, only this time further up the coast...??/ I am CONCERNED on this point and wish one of our Mets could address it....
Also the satellite presentation is showing an elongation to the NNW which is often an indicator of future direction...
The radar presentation shows steady progress directly toward the site.

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