Floridacane
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Irene is definitely moving NW. I'm using the same visible floater2 loop. Turn on the lat/lon, and also the forecast points. Definitely NW.
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Frank P
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Excellent question and I've noticed that feature to, most especially on the GOES vis loops... but I'm not sure... it is interesting.. one would like to think of it as an eye... but sometimes the sat pixs are deceiving somewhat... recon could certainly answer the question... to say that its has an eye would imply that its a hurricane... I'm not sure there is any data on Irene that supports it being a hurricane... I know I didn't answer your question because I am not sure whether it is an eye or not... gut feelings say no, center perhaps, but no eye feature... but I've been wrong more times than right ...
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Old Sailor
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Agree with you Frank looks to be moving between 295 to 300 Degrees.
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Frank P
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Hey Dave we're close... I'm thinking between 300 and 310... still more NW than WNW... certainly not going west at all... always easier for me to tell you where its been than where its going...
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The Force 2005
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If you look at a single frame at a time and advance it one at a time, look at the feature at 1345z and 1615z frames. A distinct possible eye was trying to form. Maybe just some banding trying to wrap around on the last frame at 1615z. Maybe it is, maybe it is not, but I believe that when the RECON gets there, we might have one.
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Frank P
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I hear you Force... very interesting presentation it does present... after having reviewed it numerous times I would not be surprised either way once recon starts reporting...
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Ron Basso
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I don't think that's an eye..just an opening in the cloud shield of the . I notice alot of discussion about movement and which way the center is moving. If u look at the overall cloud shield its pushing toward the west which implies some easterly shear. It may very well be following 's track, but I can't tell off the vis SAT. There is still not a well defined center - is it tucked underneath the recent blow-up of convection on the south side? - if so, it's already west of the position. In all honesty, this is all speculation until recon gets a fix on the LLC. It does look to be slowing down a bit whether its W-NW or NW.
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The Force 2005
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Take a look at this IR picture of Irene. "EYE" forming!!!!
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The Force 2005
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Do you see what I mean from last post. does anyone see it. You must have, cause you all are downloading it or opening it up. Any comments from anyone.
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Ed in Va
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Agee with Ron...only a cloud opening. To me at least, there is nothing apparent from her structure that would support an eye.
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Myles
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New thread posted. And I highly doubt what we're seeing is an eye forming. More liklely it's a cloud feature that will go away as fast as it developed. Wait an hour or so and I bet that the feature is gone.
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Clark
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New thread posted on the main page....let's move on over there and pick up the debate there.
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