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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: LI Phil]
      #19668 - Fri Aug 13 2004 02:51 AM

Im in citrus county and Charley is making me worry, If the admin will let me I will set up a camera in my home to show the incoming weather, I am 11 miles from the coastline so it might not be a Big show lol!


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Re: Inland Winds [Re: StormHound]
      #19669 - Fri Aug 13 2004 02:52 AM

He's a close call to still be a Cat 1 at the Georgia/ Florida line.

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Re: Inland Winds [Re: StormHound]
      #19670 - Fri Aug 13 2004 02:54 AM

Check your local NWS site for the forecast. They normally update at 4pm and 4 am. I think it's local time.
Due to the circumstances they are probably updating more often.

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/


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Re: Charley Vortex Update [Re: danielw]
      #19671 - Fri Aug 13 2004 02:55 AM

URNT12 KNHC 130231
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 13/0231Z
B. 22 DEG 07 MIN N
82 DEG 22 MIN W
C. 700 MB 2874 M
D. NA
E. NA
F. 252 DEG 90 KT
G. 169 DEG 010 NM
H. 973 MB down 3mb in 1:36
I. 11 C/ 3089 M
J. 18 C/ 3086 M
K. 8 C/ NA-dropped 2C-
L. CLOSED
M. C15--3 miles smaller than last fix
N. 12345/7
O. 0.1/ 2 NM
P. AF984 0703A Charley OB 31
MAX FL WIND 97 KT SE QUAD 0044Z. EYE BECOMING MORE
SYMMETRICAL.

Edited by danielw (Fri Aug 13 2004 03:00 AM)


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Re: Inland Winds [Re: StormHound]
      #19672 - Fri Aug 13 2004 02:56 AM

If the storm goes on the "current forecast track" do not expect much of a drop in winds in Polk county. Orange county would probably be borderline hurricane conditions on the western side. Trop storm on the east side of the county. These are my guesses. I am sure MLB will update in their next local advisory. Ruskin would update Polk.

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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: Anonymous]
      #19673 - Fri Aug 13 2004 02:56 AM

Looks like on radar that Charley may be weakining a bit as he's running out of room, but in about 3 hours he'll be nearing the gulf. Probably wont be rapid intensification but a gradual increase in strength until it comes toward landfall tomorrow night. Keep safe folks.

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Re: Charley Vortex Update [Re: danielw]
      #19674 - Fri Aug 13 2004 02:58 AM

The pressure is down more and the eye is now closed. Look at the vortex.

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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: alan]
      #19675 - Fri Aug 13 2004 03:00 AM

They shifted the tropical storm watch southward on the east coast from Jupiter Inlet south to Ocean Reef!!! That's got to get you thinkin. BTW, I was watching the eye on the Dvorak loop. If that wasn't 355 degrees + I'm 18!!

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Slowing [Re: joepub1]
      #19676 - Fri Aug 13 2004 03:01 AM

Slowing in my books Is Not good, it ussually means more of quicker recurve so the track may be more to the right. On the other hand the ridge could still be holding north of charlie and may acttully be pushing back in and the trough flattens out and passes bye to the north leaving the door way open for the storm to continue west . Call me Crazy but the Water Vapor almost wants to support the idea. the southern part of the trough appeers to flattening and the front edge almost seems to have been pushed back some instead of progressing se.

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Re: Inland Winds [Re: StormHound]
      #19677 - Fri Aug 13 2004 03:03 AM

At 10:00 the weatherman on Orlando's Ch. 27 news predicted sustained winds of 40-50 mph in the metro area and 50-75 mph in Lake and Sumter with possible gusts up to 100 mph.

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Re: Category II Charley takes aim at the Gulf Coast of Florida [Re: Anonymous]
      #19678 - Fri Aug 13 2004 03:03 AM

Lots of information to process here, it's making my brain short-circuit. I wish there was something to show where it would go down to the city level in state. I live in Volusia County and i'd like to know what to expect. I've been through a few and the strong ones are not fun...

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Re: Charley Vortex Update [Re: danielw]
      #19679 - Fri Aug 13 2004 03:05 AM

973 mb. Your just full of good news, aren't you.

I see a pretty good blowup coming on the north side of Cuba.


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Re: Charley Vortex Update [Re: joepub1]
      #19680 - Fri Aug 13 2004 03:07 AM

Jim Cantore just stated at 11pm that Charley is moving "ever so slightly west of due north"

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Re: Charley Vortex Update [Re: Floridacane]
      #19681 - Fri Aug 13 2004 03:15 AM

Yep, the eye movement is just a hair W of Due north. For once I agree with Jim. Those Cold cloud tops northeast of Cuba will be ready to wrap into the center when he gets north of cuba. He will intensify pretty rapidly.

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Re: Inland Winds [Re: Anonymous]
      #19682 - Fri Aug 13 2004 03:15 AM

Thanks for the info guys. That's about what I was thinking, but I wanted to verify myself.

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11 pm Disscusion [Re: Floridacane]
      #19683 - Fri Aug 13 2004 03:15 AM

the discussion aked if it was turning north prematuruly(excuse spelling) Lights out see yall in the morning.

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Re: 11 pm Disscusion [Re: Anonymous]
      #19684 - Fri Aug 13 2004 03:18 AM

oops misspelling was me must be really tired.
im out hr


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Re: 11 pm Disscusion [Re: hurricane_run]
      #19685 - Fri Aug 13 2004 03:21 AM

Caio on that Good Night And Hope all in the keys are safe tommorow.

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ok back [Re: Steve Hirschb.]
      #19686 - Fri Aug 13 2004 03:22 AM

Went out to dinner and came home to catch update... put on radar from cuba, from key west.. a hogs breath just west of due north

no way nnw
can say maybe a frame or two nnw but...
if you put paper or even an IM box on left edge of the eye on radar it rides the IM/paper straight up...never disapeers to the left..

and why am i not surprised

i mean...knew it could happen.. hope it doesnt turn slowly to the NNE suddenly ..

also dont understand how pressure dropped from 980 to 975 steadily over 6 hours and they didnt change wind speed.. i mean not even up to like 108mph??

typical tho

anyway... watching and reading along..staring at radar

oh and they posted tropical storm watches, suppose to be on the safe side..for miami dade and broward

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Re: 11 pm Disscusion [Re: Robert]
      #19687 - Fri Aug 13 2004 03:23 AM

WTNT43 KNHC 130302
TCDAT3
HURRICANE Charley DISCUSSION NUMBER 15
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 PM EDT THU AUG 12 2004

REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT INDICATE
THAT WHILE THE CENTRAL PRESSURE HAS FALLEN TO 975 MB...WINDS FROM
DROPSONDES AND AT THE AIRCRAFT FLIGHT LEVEL ARE SO FAR NO HIGHER
THAN ON THE PREVIOUS FLIGHT. THE AIRCRAFT AND LAND BASED RADAR
FROM KEY WEST FLORIDA AND CIENFUEGOS CUBA HAVE SHOWN THE 15-20 NM
DIAMETER EYEWALL SPORADICALLY BREAKING OPEN. IN CONTRAST...
INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS THE EYE BECOMING BETTER DEFINED...
ALTHOUGH Charley HAS THUS FAR NOT BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN STRONG
SYMMETRIC CONVECTION AROUND IT. ALL THESE SIGNS POINT TO A SYSTEM
THAT IS SLOWLY STRENGTHENING AT THIS TIME. BASED ON THE AIRCRAFT
DATA AND SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES...THE INITIAL INTENSITY
REMAINS 90 KT.

THE INITIAL MOTION IS NOW 340/12...A LITTLE SLOWER THAN EARLIER.
RADAR TRACKING SHOWED A DUE NORTHWARD MOTION FOR A TIME THIS
EVENING...WHICH RAISES THE QUESTION OF WHETHER Charley IS TURNING
NORTHWARD A LITTLE PERMATURELY. ASIDE FROM THAT...THE TRACK
FORECAST IS FAIRLY STRAIGHT FORWARD. Charley IS ON THE WEST SIDE
OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC WHICH HAS ITS
AXIS AT ABOUT 25N. A DEEP LAYER TROUGH COVERS THE CENTRAL AND
EASTERN UNITED STATES. Charley SHOULD MOVE GENERALLY NORTHWARD FOR
12-24 HR...THEN ACCELERATE NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD AHEAD OF THE TROUGH.
ALL MODEL GUIDANCE AGREES WITH THIS BASIC SCENARIO...ALTHOUGH THERE
IS SOME SPREAD IN BOTH SPEED AND DIRECTION. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST
IS ALONG THE SAME LINE AS THE PREVIOUS FORECAST FOR THE FIRST 48 HR
BUT SOMEWHAT SLOWER. IT IS ALONG THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE MODEL
GUIDANCE IN BEST AGREEMENT WITH THE GFS AND GFDL. AFTER 48
HR...THE FORECAST IS SHIFTED SOMEWHAT TO THE LEFT TO COMPROMISE
BETWEEN THE GFS AND NOGAPS POSITIONS OF extratropical Charley.

WHILE Charley IS CURRENTLY STRENGTHENING SLOWLY...THERE IS STILL
POTENTIAL FOR RAPID STRENGTHENING OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN GULF OF
MEXICO GIVEN THE FAIRLY WELL-DEFINED EYE...THE WARM WATER AND THE
GOOD TO EXCELLENT OUTFLOW IN THE NORTHERN SEMICIRCLE. ONE
POTENTIAL NEGATIVE FACTOR IS A DRY SLOT WHICH HAS WRAPPED ALL THE
WAY AROUND INNER CORE. THE SHIPS MODEL TAKES Charley TO 97 KT IN
24 HR...WHILE THE GFDL BEINGS IT TO 112 KT. THE LATTER IS
CERTAINLY POSSIBLE IF THE INTENSIFICATION RATE INCREASES. THE
INTENSITY FORECAST CALL FOR Charley TO PEAK AT 105 KT PRIOR TO
LANDFALL...BUT IT COULD BE STRONGER. AFTER LANDFALL...PASSAGE OVER
LAND AND INCREASING SHEAR SHOULD WEAKEN THE CYCLONE AND EVENTUALLY
CAUSE extratropical TRANSITION.

THE POSSIBILITY OF A PREMATURE NORTHWARD MOTION AND THE FORECAST
SIZE OF THE STORM REQUIRES TROPICAL STORM WATCHES TO BE EXTENDED
SOUTHWARD ALONG THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA COAST. THE FORECAST TRACK
REQUIRES EXTENSION OF HURRICANE WARNINGS UP THE FLORIDA WEST COAST
AND TROPICAL STORM WATCHES INTO SOUTH CAROLINA.

SINCE THE REST OF THE ADVISORY WAS TRANSMITTED...THE AIRCRAFT HAS
FOUND THAT THE CENTRAL PRESSURE HAS DROPPED TO 973 MB.

FORECASTER BEVEN

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 13/0300Z 22.2N 82.4W 90 KT
12HR VT 13/1200Z 24.0N 82.8W 100 KT
24HR VT 14/0000Z 26.8N 82.8W 105 KT
36HR VT 14/1200Z 31.0N 81.7W 65 KT...INLAND
48HR VT 15/0000Z 35.0N 79.4W 45 KT...INLAND
72HR VT 16/0000Z 43.5N 74.0W 35 KT...INLAND extratropical
96HR VT 17/0000Z 48.5N 66.5W 30 KT...INLAND extratropical
120HR VT 18/0000Z...ABSORBED BY FRONTAL SYSTEM


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