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Colleen A.
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Re: Cuba [Re: Unregistered User]
      #19708 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:01 AM

I think they would want your to turn off your electricity in case your area gets flooded and the water gets in the walls, etc. Don't want to go to the trouble of evacuating to save your life and then come home and turn the light on and get zapped.

I might have missed this before, but what type of winds could we expect in Lakeland (Polk County) with a CAT 3?

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Re: Lightning [Re: WXMAN RICHIE]
      #19709 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:02 AM

I think I may have just changed my mind. Look at the Long Range Key West radar. Look how great the eye and eyewall is looking now. I also cant help but notice how small the eye and the hurricane is in general. We all know that while some hurricanes may be small in size, they can pack quite a punch. There is numerous of storms in the years past but Im not gonna name any as you all already know what im talking about. I'd be worried now about maybe some rapid intensification once Charely gets into the gulf. Latest forecast says landfall near Sarasota/Tampa area with sustained winds of 120mph, with gust to 150? if im converting 130knots correctly.

I dont really know how to feel right now...Im full of excitement because this will probably be the first major hurricane I track that makes landfall. I only got intrested in weather when I was about 10 or so (Im now 17). So Im thrilled, but at the same time I feel horrible for the folks in SW and C Flordia. I just hope everyone has taken all necessary precautions by now and have hunkered down. Hopefully the storm can hold of any landfall till after 6pm tomorrow as I have more football practice!! But please everyone just stay safe and use common sense. G/Night


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Re: Cuba [Re: Colleen A.]
      #19710 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:04 AM

Believe you will be getting hurricane force winds.. Not sure the exact speed.. Your my neighbor to the west so I think you will see more winds than me.. I am hoping my 50-100 year old oaks surrounding my house will hold up. I am glad they drained Lake Toho and were just beginning to fill her up.. I would have had water in my house.

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oh thank u Steve... [Re: Steve]
      #19711 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:05 AM

maybe you should have been on tv today instead of the very descriptive nonstatements we all got

so like there is this massive band with about 2/3 of the rain coming into the upper keys/miami area in about 2 hours.. i mean strong weather
ill look to the SE..thats where my kids are because they went out to the boardwalk to see friends from out of town because winds are only 11mph and there was no tropical storm watch when they left. Im sure they are fine.. its the old neighborhood, we rode out andew on miami beach there..they are fine...

so i put on TWC... the bit on the olympic sailing ended and they show the local weather

that nice friendly high sort of voice they have come on over soft music

there has been a tropical storm watch issued for your area
there has been a tornado watch issued for your area
there has been a flood watch issued for your area

well how bout that
guess ill go out into the back yard and throw another shrimp on the barbie and look SE for that band of tornadoes

thank you Steven lol rofl

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Colleen A.
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Re: 11 pm Disscusion [Re: Londovir]
      #19712 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:07 AM

You got it, Londovir! It seems like it was just yesterday... ..uh, it was!

Did you nail the plywood over your windows? Why wouldn't the apartment managers NOT want you to do that? Stupid people are everywhere, aren't they?

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Re: Cuba [Re: Colleen A.]
      #19713 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:08 AM

Colleen, they're saying around now, depending on where eye enters, that we could expect 70-80 mph winds for about 3 hours tomorrow. Hard to say. Of course if it comes in around Sarasota and angles over us, it'll prolly be a little less due to weakening over land.

Worst part (seems like always to me) is it's looking to be yet another darkness hurricane hit. Seems like every cane I've weathered in my life has always rolled in under darkness. Makes it much more frightening.

Londovir


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Re: Cuba [Re: Londovir]
      #19714 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:12 AM

It appears that the eye is just now making landfall in Cuba, based on lastest radar.

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Re: Inland Winds [Re: Colleen A.]
      #19715 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:19 AM

Don't laugh at the name here. It's called MEOW. Maximum Envelope Of Winds. I'll put the link here and let you be the judge.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutmeow.shtml

This link would apply to the last advisory, somewhat.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/GC10512.GIF

BTW: the next recon flight just became airborne.

Edited by danielw (Fri Aug 13 2004 04:27 AM)


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Left jab, right overland [Re: Steve]
      #19716 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:19 AM

Bonnie sent several tornados through JAX today. 4 people hurt, cars tossed around, an old hotel not in use leveled. TWC says everyone from SW FL to the FL/GA line, (over 6 million people in path) needs to be ready. Local stores did have a run put on them here today, mostly for the basics. Nobody's boarding up on the E coast, but Mayor said most of us could lose power (expected). JEA will turn it off when trees begin to break down the power grid. Could take several days to clean up that mess. Most of this is worse case stuff, but better than 50% chance of it happening. Local mets are on board with NHC, none went out of their way to make it sound worse than it is, nobody playing the hero. Kinda proud of them for that, overall they've done a good job. I'll give the NHC an A so far, but the final exams are tomorrow. Tonights call was the last one most people will hear, hope they got it right. I will say I think they have. I think I heard tonight it was 1906 the last time Florida took two storms this close to each other, most of us will hope it's another 98 years before this happens again.

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Re: Cuba [Re: Lisa NC]
      #19717 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:26 AM

wish you the best.. stayed up late last nite (most of it) and got lucky bonnie stayed south and to the east of me.. the only bear on wishing it goes somewhere else is you are wishing misfortune on someone else.. anyway good luck.. gotta get some z's

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Re: Cuba [Re: Londovir]
      #19718 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:26 AM

And the phone rings and emails keep on coming. Sorry i havnt posted today for I worked and had to respond to alot of people while keeping up with Charley.
Still straight on schedule from my posts a few days back and yesterday on the track of Charley. Bonnie was pretty easy on threatning looks at wanting to jump to hurricane strength but just didnt get the right factors into play. I forcasted her to stay a TS but would have the slightest chance of making a hurricane,. well everything came on schedule (like Alex).
Charley behaving the same way,, path near Jamaica then Cayman Islands then up alittle west of key west and threaten Ft Myers thru about New Port Riche as of a couple days back. Wind speeds are on schedule. I only see 1 thing that the NHC also noted that alitte more of a N wobble at times has been taking place over the last 6 hours. If this continues and starts a wobble or 2 to the NNE by every .1 per 3 hours over the next 6-9 then landfall should be closer to Venice on NNE track late Friday afternoon or by evening. This will be due to the trough to its NW really digging in slightly quicker then what is forcasted (note the ENE jogs that Bonnie took). IF Charley holds his own or strengthns more after 3am in a more major drop in pressure (say down to 962mb) by 8am this might cause more of a lifting factor and keep the path more N into the morning hours on Friday before the wobbles NNE during that late morning hours and into the afternoon and evening. This would take the center near Sarasota - Clearwater landfall around 9pm- 12am. ( note the big swath in timing and area coverage there is due to the coastline in a NNW-SSE direction in corrilation to the N to NNE direction of Charley. Had to tell even now the exact spot due the trough to its west and the better northern outflow of a possible Charley by sunrise. Time will tell but staying on a Sarasota area with impacts all the way up to coastal Hernado. Nothing is set. scottsvb


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Re: Cuba [Re: scottsvb1]
      #19719 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:35 AM

>>I think lightning is very common in the bands far removed from the center, but very uncommon near or in the eyewall.

That's pretty much right, but not necessarily inland. I went and looked at some high-tech radars after you posted about the 4200 strikes. That was a big fat clump of clouds (with embedded squall line - saw severe tstorm warning for southern Dade Co.). I've personally heard thunder in about 3 of the 8 or 9 storms that I've seen outer bands from (rotating outer bands, not the ones that build in overhead). I don't recall ever seeing any in any of the depressions I've gone through FWIW. (Edit in: As noted in the third article, it's due to the ice crystals over the colder parts of the system {= inner-storm}).

Londovir,

That's pretty scary when you think of it. BIggest gust I've ever seen was probably in the 60's. Even at only Cat II, if you get 70mph+ for 2-3 hours, that's pretty nerve wracking/hair raising. And once it starts...

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Colleen A.
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Re: 11 pm Disscusion [Re: andy1tom]
      #19720 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:36 AM

Yes, the front is still there...as far as doing what it's supposed to do, it all comes down to timing -- what else is new? What I'm hearing from the mets here is that if the front comes down sooner, Charley will make landfall south of Tampa Bay. That's the scenario they want because then the water in Tampa Bay will be pushed OUT into the GOM. If it is slower coming down, we get it north of Tampa Bay and then we have a huge problem because the water will be push into the bay and it doesn't have anywhere to go.
The track is pretty much set, it just the timing of the front and where Charlie is when they meet.

p.s. The Batphone just went off again...scared the living daylights out of me. It was for a "HIGH WIND WARNING...FROM FRIDAY AT 8:AM TO SATURDAY AT 8:00AM INLAND COUNTIES CAN EXPECT MODERATE TO SUBSTANTIAL WIND DAMAGE..."

Couldn't get the whole thing because I was using the defibrillators on myself.

I guess they just answered my question.

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Re: 11 pm Disscusion [Re: Colleen A.]
      #19721 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:38 AM

Alarming Public Info Statement Tampa

...structural Damage...
The Majority Of Mobile Homes Will Be Severely Damaged Near Where The
Storm Makes Landfall. Houses Of Poor To Average Construction Will
Have Significant Damage...including Partial Wall Collapse And Roofs
Being Lifted Off. Many Will Be Uninhabitable. Well Constructed Houses
Will Incur Minor Damage To Shingles...siding...gutters...as Well As
Blown Out Windows.

Partial Roof Failure Is Expected At Industrial Parks...especially To
Those Buildings With Light Weight Steel And Aluminum Coverings. Older
Low Rising Apartment Roofs May Also Be Torn Off...as Well As
Receiving Siding And Shingle Damage. Much Of The Glass In High Rise
Office Buildings Will Be Blown Out. Airborne Debris Will Cause
Damage...injury...and Possible Fatalities.
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Re: Cuba [Re: scottsvb1]
      #19722 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:42 AM

Warm Water ahead. Checked the temeratures of the GOM directly ahead of Charley.
Here's the results:
Dry Tortugas hi water temp today was 86.9
......................lo water temp as of 10pm was 86.2

Sand Key......hi water temp 86.9
......................lo water temp 85.8

Long Key......hi water temp 89.6
......................lo water temp 87.6
*these are inconclusive, but Charley has to pass over the Gulf Stream, unless he turns towards the west.*


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Re: Cuba [Re: danielw]
      #19723 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:47 AM

The eye has become even better organized over Cuba. I think once it makes it out over water again this may become a cat4?

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Re: Cat 4? [Re: Anonymous]
      #19724 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:49 AM

What happened to CAT 3?

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u sure [Re: danielw]
      #19725 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:56 AM

i was hoping that massive band of dark color on ir about to slam into miami was an outflow boundary

watching... why does this storm have no weather to the south or west all to ne? and eye

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Re: Cat 4? [Re: danielw]
      #19726 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:57 AM

This storm is getting stronger over Cuba in is holding a very small eye! It is very possible with the waters of the Gulf of Mexico in the upper 80s!

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Re: Cuba [Re: Londovir]
      #19727 - Fri Aug 13 2004 04:57 AM

That is scary...I've never even seen 70mph winds, never mind be in the middle of them. Tomorrow's going to be a long long day, I do believe. I don't like not being able to see what's going on.

*here's another one for the weather books: the anchorman on BayNews9 just said, "If for SOME REASON YOU LOSE POWER TOMORROW, YOU CAN LISTEN TO US ON 104.7"

What does he mean, If for SOME REASON? Doesn't he realize that a major hurricane MIGHT be THE reason for losing power?

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