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Keith234
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Temperatures Depart from Normal
      #24583 - Thu Sep 09 2004 08:31 PM

I have been watching the temperature maps these past couple of weeks, there seems to be a 4 C depression in the Eastern Pacific, and about the same in the Hudson bay. That's find and dandy but is this some type of hint to what winter will be like, or does the temp. difference some type of way of balancing out the up and coming El nino. Also, this next system coming into the Pacific Northwest could spell some trouble for the Mid-west, theres a lot of mixing going on, I would watch out if I lived in the Mid-west these couple of days.

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Re: Temperatures Depart from Normal [Re: Keith234]
      #24602 - Thu Sep 09 2004 09:36 PM

Are these sea surface temperatures, or actual air temperatures? The atmospheric system always tries to remain in balance (stable), and the purpose of instability is to restore stability. Often times, in response to one event, a contrasting event will appear...so this could be a response like you mention, albeit not necessarily for El NiƱo (which may or may not come). Or, it could be something else entirely: waters in the equatorial EPac have been running below normal all summer long.

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Re: Temperatures Depart from Normal [Re: Clark]
      #24606 - Thu Sep 09 2004 09:40 PM

Your totally right, and I was talking about water temps. Also Hudson Bay's water temps have also been below normal. The NAO and the PNA are both going negative, that might spawn off some strong Highs and Lows, maybe even some Nor'easters. The GFS has already said that there would be snow flurries in Pennslyvania, can you believe it? El nino or not somethings happening and it just might be a clue to the outcome of our winter.

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Re: Temperatures Depart from Normal [Re: Keith234]
      #24612 - Thu Sep 09 2004 10:04 PM

jason- I remember when I was younger, my mom told me that the sevarity of a hurricane season is usuially reflected in the winter. So far, she's been right. This has nothing to do with science or met. but, for some reason it's always seemed to work out that way.

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Re: Temperatures Depart from Normal [Re: kelcot]
      #25016 - Fri Sep 10 2004 05:44 PM

Could the reason why we have more so called "ridging" be as a result of the cooler water temps off the northeast coast? That would be logically correct, because then that would drive the hurricanes more westward into Florida and the Gulf area.

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