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SoonerShawn
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By the way... [Re: BillD]
      #26093 - Sun Sep 12 2004 07:14 PM

I have been through a CAT 3 hurricane, Alicia back in '83. I was 11 yrs old and it scared the crap out of me because we lived in a mobile home at that time. I've also been through Allison and all the flooding she brought to our area. I don't want any part of that again and I wish that nobody would have to go through it.

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SoonerShawn is for my beloved Oklahoma Sooners. I end with ShawnS because that is how most of you know me...as we've seen.

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Re: LSU -24C line [Re: gonyen]
      #26095 - Sun Sep 12 2004 07:25 PM

The area inside the lines is supposed to have a dewpoint of -24C or more. They have found this is normally a cutoff for thunderstorm formation. It's also handy to use during tornado season.

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N'awlens Not Evacuating ... [Re: Terra]
      #26096 - Sun Sep 12 2004 07:26 PM

Terra, per a post on Storm2K which had a forum on NO evacuations....

""NO EVACUATIONS (BE IT MANDATORY OR VOLUNTARY) ARE SET AT THIS TIME. There is going to be a meeting at 11:00am Monday morning. Nothing will be done until Ivan enters the GOM."""

here is the link if you want to view all the posts..

http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=1

its about half way down on the page


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Re: N'awlens Not Evacuating ... [Re: Frank P]
      #26097 - Sun Sep 12 2004 07:34 PM

Quote:

Terra, per a post on Storm2K which had a forum on NO evacuations....

""NO EVACUATIONS (BE IT MANDATORY OR VOLUNTARY) ARE SET AT THIS TIME. There is going to be a meeting at 11:00am Monday morning. Nothing will be done until Ivan enters the GOM."""

here is the link if you want to view all the posts..

http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=1

its about half way down on the page




Thanks.... maybe what I read before was a misinterpretation and what was said was that they'd talk about evacuations tomorrow. I'll register for that forum and see what it's all about. Thanks again.

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Recon Question [Re: Frank P]
      #26098 - Sun Sep 12 2004 07:34 PM

When can we expect recon back in the storm sending vortex messages?

--Lou


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Re: LSU -24C line [Re: danielw]
      #26099 - Sun Sep 12 2004 07:34 PM

Thanks. The link under the loop refers to a dissertation by Melvin Martin titled "The relationship between water vapor and hurricane track using the GOES-8 satellite" and says the line is discussed therein. I was wondering if anyone knew anything regarding this line and its effect on the track.

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Re: Ivan to Know Where it Goes [Re: Unregistered User]
      #26100 - Sun Sep 12 2004 07:37 PM

I have been lurking around the last week or so and have learned so much!! Since I spend so much time on this site now, I have just registered. I would love someone in the know to discuss what's out there to steer this monster and when and what is going to make Ivan take that northerly turn?

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Re: Recon Question [Re: recmod]
      #26101 - Sun Sep 12 2004 07:41 PM

At 2310Z (about a half hour ago) they were at 20.7N 84.3W, so they should be there soon.

Bill


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Re: Recon Question [Re: BillD]
      #26102 - Sun Sep 12 2004 07:44 PM

LOL.....I was just thinking, if the recon guys sneezed, we'd probably be first with the God Bless you!

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Re: Recon Question [Re: MrSpock]
      #26103 - Sun Sep 12 2004 07:46 PM

LOL... So true... we are probably watching them closer than anyone but the NHC. Did anyone notice earlier that some of the obs did not follow the usual format? Some lower case was included, also column headings on the supplementary message. I'm not complaining, just found it interesting.

Bill


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Re: Recon Question [Re: BillD]
      #26104 - Sun Sep 12 2004 07:48 PM

actually, no, I hadn't. Oh, the supp. message, I didn't check. As it gets closer, I am wondering if there will be more missions. Also, in the Gulf, I am assuming there is more data gathering ability.

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Nolefan
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Re: Recon Question [Re: BillD]
      #26105 - Sun Sep 12 2004 07:50 PM

Just found you guys today... wish I had before Charley.
May I ask how you track the Recon guys?
Thanks


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Re: Recon Question [Re: BillD]
      #26108 - Sun Sep 12 2004 07:56 PM

When will we have some new recon data ?


Just got back from gulf shores AL and people are already getting ready for Ivan.

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Re: Recon Question [Re: BillD]
      #26109 - Sun Sep 12 2004 08:01 PM

The "funny" recon messages are from a WC-130 J model. The newer model with the composite props. The J model displays different data on the Vortex and Supp reports.

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Re: Recon Question [Re: Nolefan]
      #26110 - Sun Sep 12 2004 08:01 PM

There are links on this site to recon data, but the NHC link is here TPC Recon

Select "RECCO Observations (tropical cyclones)" and this will give you the latest recon location data. You'll need to read the "How to read" link to decode it. But the lat and long of each observation is reported, and when they are on their way there, they report in about every 30 mins or so.

Bill


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Re: Recon Question [Re: Nolefan]
      #26111 - Sun Sep 12 2004 08:02 PM

They file a plan for the day, found at this link:
http://www.atwc.org/p2.php#recon


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Check out this picture of Gilbert from LSU earth scan labs... [Re: HCW]
      #26112 - Sun Sep 12 2004 08:03 PM

http://www.esl.lsu.edu/demos/hurricanes/gilbert.gif

Almost 16 years to the day. Look where Gilbert was. Amazing


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Re: Recon Question [Re: HCW]
      #26113 - Sun Sep 12 2004 08:04 PM

People in AL need to be worried, it's good that they're getting prepared. Not much more to say, as everyone has been doing an great job posting. Got to go watching the perfect storm on channel 4.

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KJJBCr
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Re: Recon Question [Re: HCW]
      #26114 - Sun Sep 12 2004 08:05 PM

images from hurricane Betsy- New Orleans, Sept. 8-11, 1965:
Scary:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=h...DUTF-8%26sa%3DN


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KJJBCr
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Re: Recon Question [Re: KJJBCr]
      #26115 - Sun Sep 12 2004 08:07 PM

view of the city:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=h...DUTF-8%26sa%3DN


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