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javlin
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Re: I Think Frank This is a New Trend [Re: Frank P]
      #27886 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:21 PM

It looks like Ivan is dodging Buras was going straight at it kicked right see it real good on the goes VIS.Strange we've seen this before let's hope I put up all these boards for no reason.

Maybe I should go have drink now not seeing things right go talk to the dog.

Edited by javlin (Wed Sep 15 2004 06:27 PM)


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Frank P
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Re: the bulge [Re: eulogia]
      #27887 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:24 PM

didn't mean to bring back bad memories.... I think your experience similar to what the poor people east of the center will feel...

thanks redbird.. .will do


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clyde w.
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Re: I Think Frank This is a New Trend [Re: javlin]
      #27888 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:28 PM

Here's a link to the tornado story in PCB:

http://www.wmbb.com/servlet/Satellite?pa...70486&path=

In a thread last night, I mentioned the massive hook echos off the coast of Tampa and my fear that these were tornadic. It looks like that has been confirmed in the worst possible way, unfortunately.


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Question [Re: MikeC]
      #27889 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:29 PM

since the use of names for hurricanes was there a season where we got to the end of the list? Cause at this rate...

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Re: the bulge [Re: Frank P]
      #27890 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:29 PM

I just spoke with my parents and they are staying put in Ocean Springs. Nothing for me to do but worry myself to pieces. They are by a canal and the water is already rising. They will call me every few hours,
Helen


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Re: Question [Re: trinibaje]
      #27891 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:32 PM

No, I think within the last 10 years we got to the "T" storm, but I would need to check that before I call it a fact. I forgot the rules for if you go through the alphabet.

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Re: I Think Frank This is a New Trend [Re: Timbo]
      #27892 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:32 PM

TImbo, great advise... done... also I have an AC/DC convert that plugs into car and can recharge the batteries...

Cen Fl... any move to the right will help... I heard that same analysis earlier tonight, for my sake I hope it holds true, but that just makes worse somewhere else...

boy, it got hot in here in a hurry.. how did people live without AC... .

I'm going to log off for about an hour, need to go outside and maybe catch a little breeze then eat supper... come to think of it I have not eaten anything since lunch yesterday.. now that's strange for me.... Oh, I think I hear Mr. Crown calling again too...

be back online in a while, providing land line still working

thanks to all.....

later


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clyde w.
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Re: Question [Re: MrSpock]
      #27893 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:34 PM

The most storms we've ever had in a season was 21, I think that was in 1933 (?). If they were named then, we would have gotten to the end of the list. NHC does not use Q,U,X,Y, or Z in their lists, so there are 21 names each year.

In 1995 we got to T, with 19 storms. I have begun to wonder if they will soon do away with I as well, since they have retired Isadore, Isabel, and will retire Ivan this year. There aren't a lot of I names left...


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Re: Question [Re: clyde w.]
      #27894 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:37 PM

They may have to replace the "I" storms with "ME" storms.


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Re: Question [Re: clyde w.]
      #27895 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:37 PM

I would just name them according to the Greek alphabet, easy and simple.

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OrlandoDan
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Re: the bulge [Re: mojorox]
      #27896 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:39 PM

Everyone in the path needs to hunker down and take this thing seriously. I'm in Central Florida and used to get somewhat excited about these things. It was almost a holiday atmosphere at the grocery store. That was before this season.

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Re: Question [Re: clyde w.]
      #27897 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:39 PM

"I" is becoming an unlucky letter for storms. Of course if they do away with it, the fierce storms will then all begin with "J."

I recall reading somewhere that if we got past "W", then the next names would be Alpha, Bravo, Charlie (though not this year I guess), etc. I will see if I can locate that link again.

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Re: Question [Re: Jack Love]
      #27898 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:42 PM

Charley, I think you mean Delta the Greek Alphabet.

No, that's military terminology...And I might add that delta is the FOURTH letter in the greek alphabet...alpha, beta, gamma, delta...

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Edited by LI Phil (Wed Sep 15 2004 07:12 PM)


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clyde w.
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Re: Question [Re: MrSpock]
      #27899 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:42 PM

If U say so Mr. Spock.

In all seriousness, there's plenty of time to discuss naming conventions in, say mid-December. Sorry to get off-topic (LI Phil is gonna get me!).

We've had multiple fatalities from both Ivan and Jeanne today, so I think we have to keep that in mind in our discussions and remember that for every one that posts here, there are many more trying to get important info from us, pros or otherwise.

Unless you curse, attack or make an assinine comment, I'm not touching anything...

Edited by LI Phil (Wed Sep 15 2004 07:10 PM)


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clyde w.
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Re: Question [Re: clyde w.]
      #27900 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:43 PM

That said, I'm out for a bit as I have to make the trek home.

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Re: Question [Re: clyde w.]
      #27901 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:43 PM

When is expected landfall for eye? It looks like Ivan has picked up speed, although it may just look like it because of the landmass to make reference to.

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Re: models [Re: MrSpock]
      #27902 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:46 PM

i am hearing that a strong high will come out of canada and come southeastand block Ivan from going east and turn jeanne more to west toward fla. also karl may form from a strong wave in east atlantic.

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Re: Question [Re: rule]
      #27903 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:47 PM

The eye on doppler seems to be deformed, maybe just a glitch or the begining of another ERC.

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Re: models [Re: meto]
      #27904 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:49 PM

The 18Z runs are doing less of that, as they are digging the trough stronger (both models) which picks up Ivan a little more. The problem is, I doubt either one has initialized Jeanne well. My skepticism comes from the fact that even though they both do that, this is the first time they show it, and it is on an off-time run. New data doesn't get fed in until 0z.
I want to see them do it a few more times before I am convinced, but at least for now, they are trending stronger with a trough in the east. Hopefully it's enough.


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Re: Question [Re: Keith234]
      #27905 - Wed Sep 15 2004 06:52 PM

Wow, take a look at the Tallahassee radar.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/radar/latest/DS.p19r0/si.ktlh.shtml

Are those "hook" echos?


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