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Re: Tropical Depression Five Forms In Central Atlantic [Re: CaneTrackerInSoFl]
      #42071 - Mon Jul 11 2005 03:48 PM

TD 5 looking decently organized, especially on IR. Will probably become Emily at some point. Where she tracks is obviously dependant on a number of factors that aren't anywhere near 100% certain this far out.

My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected by Dennis.

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Re: Are you kidding [Re: tpratch]
      #42072 - Mon Jul 11 2005 03:50 PM

Responses are locked down to only registered users again.
Other forums are still open. I'd like to leave this as open as possible folks. But don't need people to derail everything. I'm familiar with how much larger forums work, and I can do moderation that way if it would be better. With much more use of the banhammer but I'd rather not. May institute probations (timed periods where a user cannot post) and ban warnings into this.

However I tend to hope most people don't need it, so in the past I've left it open to make it easier for folks to comment.

This site isn't super serious, it's just a website and anyone can do something similar with the effort, but I read it too, and I can spot when things degrade it.


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Re: Tropical Depression Five Forms In Central Atlantic [Re: MikeC]
      #42073 - Mon Jul 11 2005 03:53 PM

Did anyone notice how Fox pulled a live clip of max mayfield while he was in the middle of a sentence, to go to a hurricane update. How Rude. He's the expert.

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lockdown [Re: Unregistered User]
      #42074 - Mon Jul 11 2005 03:53 PM

i don't like the idea of having to go to lockdown; i don't think any of the admins do either. try not to bait anybody (or be baited) into useless bickering. if people get really out of hand us mod/admin types will respond appropriately.
out in the east atlantic... NHC holding off on upgrading t.d. 5. it's already trending weaker/more southerly than the initial progs. in the end all that does is shift the threat west and south. the larger islands are more likely targets as time goes by. they'll add lots of chaos to track/intensity. some of the models have been running it more w than anything else... my reckoning is that it stays west until deepening, then starts wnw/nw.. until the building ridge to the north smooths it's track on wnw. joe b has it keeping low, getting as far as the western gulf. i dunno.. maybe something in between.
i've noticed that the ITCZ disturbance to the se of t.d 5 is dragging on it some.. and if it were at a more appreciable latitude would be favored for development. not doing a thing unless it gets to the north.. may influence the t.d. 5 track in the short term. the 11am two even mentions it.
the wave coming off africa isn't a completely discrete entity.. involved with a sort of monsoon trough right now. there is still as much/more model support for this feature than t.d. 5/future emily. joe b has it acting up, going more to the north.
intuition is that we'll have systems five and six this week. the fun never stops.
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Re: How long are we in the upswing? [Re: Terra]
      #42075 - Mon Jul 11 2005 04:01 PM

This is a great link for all of your discussion info (( DUH )) http://www.elnino.noaa.gov/forecast.html

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Re: How long are we in the upswing? [Re: Tazmanian93]
      #42076 - Mon Jul 11 2005 04:11 PM

Have we ever had 2 Hurricanes hit the U.S. at almost the same time?Nothing would surprise me at this point.And, any thoughts about this year breaking the record for most named storms?

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Re: Are you kidding [Re: tpratch]
      #42077 - Mon Jul 11 2005 04:11 PM

I truly agree !!! the unregistered should not be allowed to post in any fashion. I have watched this site and have been lurking in the background for over 2 years.. Thanks to all ! and yes, it is way to addicting!

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Re: Emily [Re: jr928]
      #42078 - Mon Jul 11 2005 04:15 PM

Looks possibly like a 1979 Arthur? I know, I know it's early, just saying it looks like it LOL. I asked this ? of the Mets/Pros late last week. Did you see anything long range putting Dennis back into the Atl (still asking) Also, what would the outcome of leftover Dennis and possible Emily running into each othe beneath the High Ridge. Perhaps an opportunity for me to learn something.

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Re: How long are we in the upswing? [Re: ftlaudbob]
      #42079 - Mon Jul 11 2005 04:21 PM

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Have we ever had 2 Hurricanes hit the U.S. at almost the same time?Nothing would surprise me at this point.And, any thoughts about this year breaking the record for most named storms?



See last year. 3 weeks is the same time in terms of hurricanes.

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Re: Emily [Re: Tazmanian93]
      #42080 - Mon Jul 11 2005 04:23 PM

There's not a lot to force Dennis out into the Atlantic in the next few days -- it'd be a close call as to whether or not it gets out into the Atlantic in enough time (and in a strong enough state) to affect the future course of Emily at all. And, if they ran into each other...it'd likely be above the subtropical ridge, with some likely interaction between the two, peraps Emily absorbing Dennis' remnants or Emily becoming absorbed by Dennis' remnants and becomnig extratropical. Not likely, and well down the road, but still a possibility.

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Re: Tropical Depression Five Forms In Central Atlantic [Re: CaneTrackerInSoFl]
      #42081 - Mon Jul 11 2005 04:24 PM

I guess time will tell.
Looking at the Visible loop, it looks like a Western Movement.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-vis-loop.html

Looking at the WV loop, it looks WNW

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-wv-loop.html

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Re: Tropical Depression Five Forms In Central Atlantic [Re: Beach]
      #42082 - Mon Jul 11 2005 04:31 PM

Agree!!! I don't see any southerly component in the pix..the convection 'ball' is moving wnw. The little feature to the southeast has a low associated with it too but not too much inter action.

No harm in not naming this for a day or so...perhaps it is better to wait at least one day..2004 storm fatigue seems to have set in again quickly...

TD 5 just has not pulled in the T numbers yet to justify the increase I guess.

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New Mets with out degrees [Re: Jeffmidtown]
      #42083 - Mon Jul 11 2005 04:32 PM

Jeff- I missed Geraldo falling. That would be one - I wouldn't want to miss too. I did see though Anderson Cooper and his little buddy freaking out over the falling Ramada sign....almost like it was the end of the world. Quite sure there was much worse going on but you wouldn't know it becasue that was all they would talk about. The sign fell, the sign fell...

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Re: Tropical Depression Five Forms In Central Atlantic [Re: doug]
      #42084 - Mon Jul 11 2005 04:34 PM

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Agree!!! I don't see any southerly component in the pix..the convection 'ball' is moving wnw. The little feature to the southeast has a low associated with it too but not too much inter action.

No harm in not naming this for a day or so...perhaps it is better to wait at least one day..2004 storm fatigue seems to have set in again quickly...

TD 5 just has not pulled in the T numbers yet to justify the increase I guess.



Why wait on naming it? The sooner its named, the sooner the Lesser Antilles can prepare.

And what if it had explosive deepening, yet the NHC was still calling it a depression to give people a rest? That sounds like negligence to the safety of all.

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Re: Tropical Depression Five Forms In Central Atlantic [Re: doug]
      #42085 - Mon Jul 11 2005 04:37 PM

Future Emily looks as if she's holding her own quite well. I see the southerly component but am not convinced it is veering southerly; it may be affected by weak easterlies.

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Re: Tropical Depression Five Forms In Central Atlantic [Re: rmbjoe1954]
      #42086 - Mon Jul 11 2005 04:39 PM

Looking at the satallite imagery, it appears the southerly component was just a wobble. I could be wrong, but I don't see any future ramifications to the track other than a little farther west by 5 PM advisory.

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Re: Tropical Depression Five Forms In Central Atlantic [Re: CaneTrackerInSoFl]
      #42087 - Mon Jul 11 2005 04:41 PM

It looked good enough to me in the pix I saw.to classify. I've seen less classified...but NHC knows something we can't tell I guess, and there are consequences in naming a system which I'm sure they consider. As far as putting the islands on notice they did that with the initial track and intensity forecast didn't they?

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Re: Tropical Depression Five Forms In Central Atlantic [Re: doug]
      #42088 - Mon Jul 11 2005 04:44 PM

The track puts them on guard. The upgrade puts them into ready mode and issuance of watches, warnings etc.

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Re: Tropical Depression Five Forms In Central Atlantic [Re: CaneTrackerInSoFl]
      #42090 - Mon Jul 11 2005 04:47 PM

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The track puts them on guard. The upgrade puts them into ready mode and issuance of watches, warnings etc.




Playing devils advocate and trying to learn something:
Is the NHC a global group? The name, National Hurricane Center, in my mind tells me it's an American organization. Why would another country care what we do? Wouldn't they have their equivalent to name or not name a storm? Unless my goegraphy is screwy and they are a part of us....

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Re: Tropical Depression Five Forms In Central Atlantic [Re: Shalafi]
      #42091 - Mon Jul 11 2005 04:56 PM

The NHC works with the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) to coordinate watches and warnings for the entire Atlantic basin. We have the infrastructure to track, predict, and survey these storms, whereas many other nations do not. As such, by agreement with the WMO and its member nations -- pretty much the entire world, I believe -- the NHC is tasked with the responsibility for these storms. It makes sense, as well, considering the US is directly impacted by many of these storms as well.

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