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trinibaje
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Re: Shutters? [Re: WXMAN RICHIE]
      #49209 - Wed Aug 24 2005 10:56 PM

sorry to ask again, but no one replied, but i need to make a decision on my plans for tomorrow ..

given Katrina current location and her direction at this moment, does anyone think miami dade county will issue hurricane warnings.

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15/10/5


Edited by trinibaje (Wed Aug 24 2005 10:57 PM)


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Justin in Miami
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Re: Shutters? [Re: WXMAN RICHIE]
      #49210 - Wed Aug 24 2005 10:59 PM

Yeah, Max Mayfield said on NBC 6 to prepare for a Cat. 1 and hope that it stays a TS. Shutters are on the side of the house waiting (ugh i hope i don't have to put them up!) oh btw, i would say that this is the core of the storm beginning to form as we speak, please tell me im wrong:

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/amx_N0Z_lp.shtml


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Justin in Miami
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Re: Shutters? [Re: trinibaje]
      #49211 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:00 PM

wait until 11pm tonight...the advisory at 5pm said warnings *may* be necessary later tonight.

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Re: Shutters? [Re: WXMAN RICHIE]
      #49212 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:01 PM

Yeah, it's eerily peaceful here. No ambience of electric drills yet.

Dunno if people even know what's going on.


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trinibaje
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Re: Shutters? [Re: Justin in Miami]
      #49213 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:01 PM

Quote:

wait until 11pm tonight...the advisory at 5pm said warnings *may* be necessary later tonight.




thanks.. unfortunately can't wait until then, so i might as well prepare like this building won't open tomorrow.

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Big Kahuna
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Re: Shutters? [Re: trinibaje]
      #49214 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:04 PM

AT 5 PM EDT...2100Z...A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE
WATCH HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR LAKE OKEECHOBEE. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING
AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE NOW IN EFFECT FOR THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA
COAST FROM VERO BEACH SOUTHWARD TO FLORIDA CITY...INCLUDING LAKE
OKEECHOBEE. A HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE
POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS. A
HURRICANE WARNING WILL LIKELY BE ISSUED FOR PORTIONS OF THE
HURRICANE WATCH AREA LATER THIS EVENING.
heres alink for watchs and warnings


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCVAT2+shtml/242033.shtml


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Margie
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noaa sat images [Re: Big Kahuna]
      #49215 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:15 PM

Noticed yesterday the web site for the NOAA sat images seems to have been upgraded and there are some changes to the way the web page loads.

Just noticed the radar option to overlay the sat image. I'm wondering, is this new, or did I just not notice this option before? I really like how you can compare what is showing in the various sat images with the long-range radar.

Also it looks like by late tonight we'll be able to see pretty close to the center of the TS on long range radar.

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Susan in Jupiter, FL
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Re: Landfall? [Re: HanKFranK]
      #49216 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:18 PM

I live in Jupiter, Palm Beach County, and they just came on TV-12 and said that they screwed up regarding where the eye was. He said they will have the new tracking at 8 p.m., and that it is directly east of West Palm Beach.

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Andrew, Irene, Charley, Francis,
Ivan, Jeanne, Katrina, Wilma


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Thunderbird12
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CDO [Re: Margie]
      #49217 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:21 PM

Looks like Katrina is trying to develop a CDO around the presumed center. There is also something resembling an eye on the long-range radar out of Miami. This could become a hurricane sooner rather than later if these features persist, though the CDO is still pretty small and there is still some dry air lurking around that could disrupt things.

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Re: Shutters? [Re: Justin in Miami]
      #49218 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:21 PM

Justin in Miami - I think you found the vortmax on the eastern edge of this loop, not the broader clear area, but the (small tight circulation) just below Great Abaco with an apparent NW motion. It could be vorticity spinning off as the system develops. I've been wrong before. Here is your link again:
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/amx_N0Z_lp.shtml

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Thunderbird12
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new vortex message [Re: Thunderbird12]
      #49219 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:26 PM

Here is the latest vortex message. Still a pretty weak system for something with a closed eye:

000
URNT12 KNHC 242318
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 24/23:05:30Z
B. 25 deg 59 min N
077 deg 28 min W
C. NA mb NA m
D. 30 kt
E. 215 deg 016 nm
F. 273 deg 035 kt
G. 216 deg 019 nm
H. EXTRAP 1001 mb
I. 21 C/ 246 m
J. 24 C/ 246 m
K. 24 C/ NA
L. CLOSED WALL
M. C16
N. 12345/ 1
O. 0.02 / 3 nm
P. AF304 0312A Katrina OB 17
MAX FL WIND 48 KT SE QUAD 21:46:30 Z
MAX FL TEMP 25 C, 215 / 11NM
SLP EXTRAP FROM 1500 FT.
RAGGED EYEWALL


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Re: Landfall? [Re: MikeC]
      #49220 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:28 PM

Thank You Very Much! My kids are saying, "it's not coming anywhere near us!". They don't understand that the straight line is just the center and there are hundreds of miles of bad weather around the center. They remember all too well Frances, Charley and Jeanne, so now I can show them where the centers of those storms were and how much fun we had here from them. Now they get it!
Thanks again!

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FlaRebel
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Clark!!! [Re: Thunderbird12]
      #49221 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:28 PM

I know it's very early, but what is your best guess right now, based on the weather patterns, for us here in Tallahassee?

Edit: lots of rain, probably enough to allow us to set a new all-time record for August (we're only about 4" behind after today), and some wind. If it comes in on the NHC track, expect widespread power outages and for the coast to be devestated. We'll have to see if that pans out and make changes if it doesn't look like it will, though. --Clark

Edited by Clark (Thu Aug 25 2005 12:37 AM)


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Jekyhe904
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Re: Landfall? [Re: Susan in Jupiter, FL]
      #49222 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:31 PM

By my radar and IR Satellite satellite guesstimates, I place the center directly under the rapidly deepening red ball due east of WPB moving NW. Also, it appears to be the tight spin and not the broader spin showing on radar.

Satellite... http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-ir4-loop.html

Radar... http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/amx_N0Z_lp.shtml

Edited by Jekyhe904 (Wed Aug 24 2005 11:32 PM)


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Re: Tropical Storm path [Re: FlaRebel]
      #49223 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:33 PM

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/loops/wxloop.cgi?wv_east_enhanced+12

This is a great loop out of Washington State. I think. It is a water vapor and it really shows off the center as well as anything I have seen. I don't have any markers or I would draw circles. It looks to me if it were to continue with no jogs, that Lake O. would have a visitor.

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Justin in Miami
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Re: Tropical Storm path [Re: GuppieGrouper]
      #49224 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:44 PM

Storm is moving west per Bryan Norcross quoting the 8pm. Due east of me!

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Re: Tropical Storm path [Re: GuppieGrouper]
      #49225 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:46 PM

8pm out and movement now WNW; the only change is pressure down to 1001mb and the TS Warning for the central Bahamas has been discontinued

now time for my official forecast: between Stuart and Ft. Lauderdale, 90mph


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Re: Tropical Storm path [Re: Rabbit]
      #49227 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:49 PM

this system is moving much faster than anticipated. Doesnt it seem like they all do that?

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Justin in Miami
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Re: Tropical Storm path [Re: Rabbit]
      #49228 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:50 PM

It appears that is the center considering all the storms are rotating around it now..

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/amx_N0Z_lp.shtml


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Re: Tropical Storm path [Re: Justin in Miami]
      #49229 - Wed Aug 24 2005 11:52 PM

not quite due west per the radar loops IMO but certainly wnw or even just north of due west.... easly to follow center right now... not NW for sure.. interesting to see if it goes wsw down the road as some models hint at due to the building of the ridge... I think one thing that will be critical is just how far west this thing gets out in the GOM.... could be the difference in an AL landfall or PCB landfall.... some still don't think its going into the GOM... I think it will and I think the GDFL might has a good bead on this cyclone, especially if it continues to develop.... stay tuned.... plenty of crow in the freezer...

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/amx_N0Z_lp.shtml


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