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dolfinatic
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Re: bulletin [Re: twizted sizter]
      #49274 - Wed Aug 24 2005 09:26 PM

I believe they are referring to the area between the bahamas and florida. It is actually the gulf stream corridor but i think they refer it to the straits as well.

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Re: katrina radar [Re: Daytonaman]
      #49275 - Wed Aug 24 2005 09:30 PM

There was a clear area on the radar that corresponded with the center earlier, but it disappeared about 90 minutes ago. There is still intense convection in that area though, based on the satellite and radar.

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Re: katrina radar [Re: danielw]
      #49276 - Wed Aug 24 2005 09:31 PM

the IR loop shows a hurricane signature, not a TS. the dry air is gone and the feederbands are in place. I think we're going to see rapid deepening.

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Re: katrina radar [Re: Daytonaman]
      #49278 - Wed Aug 24 2005 09:34 PM

Maybe some good news (short term atleast) - from Jim Williams @ hurricane city...eye of Katrina is 16mi. in diameter (from latest recon reports)

incorrect information-removed~danielw

Edited by danielw (Wed Aug 24 2005 09:38 PM)


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Re: Movement [Re: WXMAN RICHIE]
      #49279 - Wed Aug 24 2005 09:34 PM

WXMAN and all other Broward and Palm Beach members....it looks like it will be our turn for a hurricane....darn they usually go north of us...but not this time! lol warnings tonight most likely...when does everyone plan to put up shutters?

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Re: bulletin [Re: dolfinatic]
      #49280 - Wed Aug 24 2005 09:35 PM

Quote:

I believe they are referring to the area between the bahamas and florida. It is actually the gulf stream corridor but i think they refer it to the straits as well.




You are correct. The area of water between the Southern tip of FL, and Cuba is referred to as the Florida Straits.
Straits...as it is spelled, denotes a body of water.


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Re: katrina radar *Killed -- Sent to Graveyard* [Re: lunkerhunter]
      #49281 - Wed Aug 24 2005 09:35 PM

This post was sent to the Hurricane Graveyard

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Re: Movement [Re: Justin in Miami]
      #49283 - Wed Aug 24 2005 09:43 PM

Better safe than sorry....

Get your act in gear now....I personally wouldn't want to be installing shutters with or in deteriorating weather. Get them up ASAP...that's what you got em' for right!

Edited by native (Wed Aug 24 2005 09:44 PM)


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Re: katrina radar [Re: lunkerhunter]
      #49284 - Wed Aug 24 2005 09:45 PM

The east- west elongation is less now. Storm is getting more symettrical. Sorry about spelling

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Re: Movement [Re: native]
      #49286 - Wed Aug 24 2005 09:48 PM

Point taken....tomorrow is the day probably around noon my decision will be made. Oh, and the Hurricane Track guys are on their way to Deerfield Beach:

http://hurricanetrack.com/


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Re: Movement [Re: Justin in Miami]
      #49288 - Wed Aug 24 2005 09:52 PM

State Farm built a hurricane demonstration house in Deerfield Beach. They gave it to the city a couple of years ago. I think it is stilled tricked out with sensors to record what a hurricane does to it if hit.

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Re: Movement [Re: Justin in Miami]
      #49290 - Wed Aug 24 2005 09:56 PM

Just watching Steve Lyons on TWC just noticed that time line in "cone" has position just offshore "Fri AM" that being duly noted, does anyone remember how slow the expected slow down is?

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Re: Movement [Re: Justin in Miami]
      #49291 - Wed Aug 24 2005 09:57 PM

past 45 minutes or so the system sure seems to have slowed down somewhat... it was moving at a pretty good clip earlier tonight, that has slowed down considerably per the latest radar loops...

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/amx_N0Z_lp.shtml


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      #49293 - Wed Aug 24 2005 09:58 PM

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Re: Movement [Re: native]
      #49299 - Wed Aug 24 2005 10:04 PM

To something around 5mph, most likely. Remember -- at 100mi offshore, a storm moving at 10mph will make landfall in 10 hours, but one moving at 5mph will make landfall in double the amount of time. The storm is currently 150 miles due east of Ft. Lauderdale -- at an average rate of speed of 7.5mph, that's 20hr to landfall. A slowdown to 5mph takes it to 30hr, which is about the projected landfall point...so somewhere between 5-7.5mph is the likely speed as it gets to Florida.

As noted last night, the projected forward speed from then -- and the current speed now -- suggests that a second Florida landfall is more likely than any other scenario. Again, what held last night still holds -- a faster speed now will result in a landfall point in north Florida further west...and this can result from the difference between 5mph & 8mph, as small as that may seem. As of now though, something in the central Panhandle area, generally from Destin to Apalachicola is the best bet. The threat to Louisiana is nearly gone, the threat to Mississippi is diminishing, and the threat to Alabama is there but moreso for a tangential impact than a direct impact.

We'll see what this storm does in the next day and go from there. About the only thing I'm 100% certain of is that it will not move directly into the northern Keys as a strong category 4 hurricane.

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Re: Posts [Re: danielw]
      #49300 - Wed Aug 24 2005 10:06 PM

Going to bring up the initials JB. He thinks a Cat 2 system is not out of the question. I think that is possibility. Low to mid Cat 2. my personal feeling is a Cat 1 pushing Cat 2 if the system goes on the current forecast track. If, for some reason, the path gives her more time over water before landfall then currently forecast, i would be worried about a major system. Can not see that with the current forecast.

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Re: Movement [Re: Frank P]
      #49302 - Wed Aug 24 2005 10:10 PM

I noticed that also Frank as a poster mentioned earllier E-W elongation is gone.Also the the ULL out front is moving away at a good clip I think enhancing some of the outflow possibily on the W side.Then if you look at the WV loop whats that coming from the E that's working the outflow on the E side.Maybe a Met can chime in here if it is anything.Shes looking impressive this evening for sure.

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huwvloop.html


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Re: Movement [Re: Justin in Miami]
      #49305 - Wed Aug 24 2005 10:14 PM

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Point taken....tomorrow is the day probably around noon my decision will be made. Oh, and the Hurricane Track guys are on their way to Deerfield Beach:

http://hurricanetrack.com/




That's good enough for me. They are excellent for the information and video they provide.

Also, is there any more information that substantiates the slowing of the forward speed that Steve Lyons just mentioned about 15 minutes ago? The latest model runs I've seen don't show that.

Edited by JG (Wed Aug 24 2005 10:19 PM)


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      #49306 - Wed Aug 24 2005 10:15 PM Attachment (237 downloads)

This Dvorak enhancement is from the UW-CIMSS site.
It gives a good indication of the symmetry of Katrina.
Click on the attachment.


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Re: Movement [Re: javlin]
      #49307 - Wed Aug 24 2005 10:15 PM

The CDO is aligned with the circulation center, the bands are there, the elliptical elongation east to west is going away. The traces of dry air between the bands are starting to disappear. Temperatures in the water are high, shear is low. Forward movement is slowing. Tomorrow is going to be highly interesting. I'd prepare for a category 2 tomorrow, even if it doesn't make it that high. Listen to local media and stay updated if you are in Palm Beach or Broward counties.

I'm supposed to be doing work in Lee county Friday through saturday on the west coast, so believe me I'm watching this very close.


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